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#1 Posted : 06 January 2005 15:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By Shane Johnston Large employer (heavy industry, cranes etc etc) recognises six unions. New policy suggested that includes employee alcohol testing. Unions very anti initaitive. The Unions have promoted (as they should) their view to the workforce, and the Employer decides to consult the workforce directly in response. The vast majority of the workforce support initiative even though their unions do not. I'm not looking for model alcohol policies or the rights and wrongs of testing, I'm simply asking what do we do when the Unions are not representing those they represent ? Should the employer "ignore" the official union line in response to workforce wishes ?
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#2 Posted : 10 January 2005 08:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By Shane Johnston Surely someone must have a view ? Should the employer implement a policy that thw workforce are happy with, even if the Unions representing that workforce are against the policy ?
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#3 Posted : 10 January 2005 08:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter Shane If the unions are recognised then, surely, you ignore them at your peril. Shouldn't the union members should be asking why the union is not representing their views (the words tail, wagging and dog come to mind)? Paul
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#4 Posted : 10 January 2005 09:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By Roger the Dodger Sounds like a typical TU response..... Provided you can demonstrate that you have consulted the Trade Unions properly and listened to their views - I would recommend adoption of the policy if the rest of the workforce are happy. Afterall it is these you are trying to protect. You have a duty to consult, but that does not mean you have to do everthing the TU wants. Also if you had an accident and alcohol played a part - I'm sure a court of law would not look too well on the case. Consult the TUs by all means, but don't let them stop YOU managing h&s issues - your company is vicariously liable for the actions of employees. It won't be the TU Rep in the dock, but they will be pursuing compensation claims for their injured members.... I would additionally have as part of your alcohol policy, that anybody with an alcohol problem will receive support to resolve their problems - tie the policy in with your HR policies, alcoholism can be considered a illness/disability.
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