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Posted By David.G.C
A senior member of staff (Senior Contracts manager) attended a external Risk assessment course a few months ago as requested by himself, in order to complete the course he was to submit a detailed assessment based on his own scenario and judgement of the possible hazards which may be present including the legislation requirements etc. provided the assessment was suitable and sufficient, enabled the assessor to issue the relevant certificate of competence.
This senior staff member had a deadline in which to submit the assessment with the option of an extension if necessary.
This senior staff member failed to submit this assessment even after assistance/guidance from internal members of staff with the relevant certificate of competence.
This member of staff has never completed a risk assessment and appears to have no intention in the future.
This person has the attitude “it does not matter” and just shrugs their shoulders when the subject is mentioned who just thinks that you are just interfering with their progress.
This particular member of staff manages a small works Dept (refurbishment) with an important position within the company, hence the reason to gain competence in Risk assessment, especially when the type of work cover’s activities with the broadest brush.
Would anyone have any suggestions on ways to approach this type of situation?
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Posted By Chris Matthews
David, to know where you stand in the equasion in relation to the individual concerned may help to determine an adequate and reasonable course of action.
Chris
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Posted By Stuart Nagle
David.
As a Safety Advisor I have been involved with company personnel departments in reviewing person and post/job specifications in relation to the level of competency required in health and safety to hold, apply for and perform numerous functions in a company, beit academic or practical qualification(s).
It is a requirement of legislation/regulations that employers provide training to employees to assist the employer in their undertaking. This is a double-edged sword too, inso much as employees are expected to be competent to undertake the role and duties of the post/job they hold, or are given or promoted to, either through prior knowledge and experience or that attained as supplied through training by the employer.
If a person holds a level of responsibility where they should at least be capable (or competent) to identify hazards, assess the level of risk(s) posed and implement suitable and sufficient control measures, then that is a person/job specification for the post.
In the case to which you refer, it may be that the person has not acquired the skills through the training, or has, but simply does not want to do it, and hence what better way of getting out of it than failing to meet the course requirement to obtain a certificate.....!!!
Personally, if I had expended company funds on an employee for training that I consider he should have passed, but has not, I would be asking some awkward questions of that employee as to why he has not completed the necessary requirements of the course to obtain a pass.
Unless the employee is indispenable, I may even be reviewing their continued employment with the company if, after all, they cannot, as it appears be bothered to assist the employer in their undertaking....
Stuart
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Posted By Bill Bircham
David,
Under the normal operational working, who would be expected to complete the risk assessment we all know is required in law?
If it is this person, then Stuarts point is well made, they simply are not doing the job and the matter should be escalated.
If someone else (the H&S Advisor?) was expected to do the actual assessment, then I personally would not be too worried. I would concentrate on ensuring the controls measures are picked up by this reluctant person. The fact that they went on the course means that they must be aware of their personl responsibilities in this respect as an 'officer' of the organisation. If they fail to meet these . . .
Regards
Bill
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Posted By David.G.C
thanks fellas for your assistance in this matter
CHRIS- in answer to your response, Health & Safety Manager
i look forward to your advice
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Posted By Ken Taylor
I believe it should be a management responsibility to discharge the employer's duty to carry out risk assessments (assisted or guided by the H&S person when necessary) and in consultation with the appropriate employees.
Health and safety performance should be a subject for employee appraisal - which seems to be needed in this case. If risk assessment is part of the job, why is the person not doing it - and still being paid to do it and are they competent to do what is required of the job?
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Posted By Neil Pearson
Propose a policy that training and competence needs will be defined for each role (perhaps in a matrix) and that the conditions must be met for a position to be held. If the assessment is a necessary part of the training, then it hasn't been completed.
Obviously this addresses more than just this particular case, but it's better than fighting individual battles. I find that formalising requirements and inspecting/auditing against them is the best way to win.
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Posted By Ron Hunter
Who gets the job of conducting formal risk assessment in the organisation may be a moot point, however....a Senior Contracts Manager must surely have responsibility for ensuring that adequate safe systems of work, good/ best practice is maintained across all contracts, employees and sub-contractors, and for monitoring their continued effectiveness,have an involvement in incident/accident investigations etc.
The general attitude towards risk assessment you describe does not suggest that achieving and improving on safe systems of work are particularly high on his/her agenda - this surely is a cause for real concern?
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Posted By Allan St.John Holt
I think the best solution of many is Neil's. In my experience the only way to nail down accountability is to publish a list of job requirements and responsibilities, coupled with a list of training requirements for each level. In Royal Mail we now only have four levels so that makes it easier in a way, but a lot of generic stuff starts creeping in. But a training and experience requirement matrix is a good general way to go, gets quick Board level approval, and can then be audited against and used in performance evaluations.
Allan
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Posted By David.G.C
thanks again for the advice we do have a training matix based on the template provided by "Investors in people" which indicates criteria/requirements etc for the preferred positions within the company, if possible i would like to view a matrix from an external company in order to compare the layout etc! etc! etc!
thanking you in advance
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Posted By Laurie
Leaving aside any H&S specifics, and looking at the basic problem, this person is failing to carry out the requirements of the job.
It becomes a simple HR issue, and the company presumably has disciplinary procedures which should now be followed
Laurie
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