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#1 Posted : 17 January 2005 16:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By Shelagh O'Sullivan The contractor who services our Fire Extinguishers has today advised that some or all of our recently acquired photoluminescent Fire Safety Signs do not comply with respect to the symbol/arrows etc and/or the specification for the effectiveness of the photoluminescence. I purchased these signs from a reputable supplier of health & safety equipment in an effort to save on the cost of the above contractor adding this service to our annual review with his company. Even he still seems a bit confused as to whether we should be working to BS or European Standards. I do need to gen up on the nitty gritty of these requirements. Either way, in terms of risk assessment, is it likely that if we continue to use the signs we have in situ, until they actually require replacement, we would incur any liability with respect to the letter of the law on Safety Signs? I would add that our signs have been 'lacking' prior to acquiring these new ones and no Fire Officer has ever picked up on this to my knowledge. Any advice would be welcome. I am reluctant to spend more money when what we have may suffice. Thanks in advance Shelagh
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#2 Posted : 17 January 2005 17:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By Neil Pearson As long as you're fairly okay in other respects, why not call your local fire safety office, ask them to advise?
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#3 Posted : 17 January 2005 19:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stuart Nagle Shelagh. I have emailed you with info. Stuart
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#4 Posted : 17 January 2005 20:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steve Cartwright Hi Shelagh My advice would be to ignore what the fire extinguisher service engineer has to recommend. They are only trying to make some more money out of you. I think they are on commission. I had one who tried to tell me we needed a fire blanket for kitchen which only had a kettle and a microwave. We also had another one who tried to tell me that we needed 3 9ltr water extinguishers and 2 co2 extinguishers in one of our small high street branches. Most of them do a 3 or 4 day course on how to service a fire extinguisher and all of a sudden they are experts. Remind him that he services the fire extinguishers and you will look after the rest. Regards Steve
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#5 Posted : 18 January 2005 09:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By Roger the Dodger If we are talking about sign that are intended to show the position and/or content of a fire extinguisher(s), the I would suggest you look at your local fire brigade web site - as per my posting on the question regarding fire escape lanes, the West Yorkshire Fire Service have a good section regarding the technical aspects of fire safety. WYorks indicate that where fire extinguishers are already easily visible i.e. not hidden behine machines, office equipment etc, there is NO need for additional signage to indicate the position/contents of fire extinguishers. As per other postings by others, fire extinguisher 'engineers' are usually partly on commission for anything they can sell - always remember this when dealing with them
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#6 Posted : 18 January 2005 17:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken Taylor I suggest you check the engineer's worksheet as well before you sign it. One of their other ploys is to condemn extinguishers for minor scratches to paintwork, etc, and replace them with new ones at considerable cost (and commission). I had one once condemn a fire-blanket because the container was dirty. You can still use either BS or EU safety signs but you are recommended not to mix them.
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