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Admin		#1 Posted : 26 January 2005 19:03:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By James Perry Colleagues A Customer has requested from us, Material Safety Data Sheets for our products - Butter and Skimmed Milk Powder. I am struggling to find an example of these to adapt, or for any instructions on writing one from scratch. Could anyone assist in providing MSDS for Butter or Powder; or point me in the direction of instructions on how to create one? Regards Jim Perry
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Admin		#2 Posted : 27 January 2005 08:14:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Gordon Thelwell Hello James, Good grief! You have landed a slippery one! I believe i have what you are looking for here at The Cornell 'MSDSSearch' web site. http://www.msdssearch.com/DBLinksN.htm Good luck! Gordon.
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Admin		#3 Posted : 27 January 2005 09:44:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Adam Jackson Don't MSDS only have to be provided where the chemcical or product is hazardous or 'dangerous for supply'. If your butter doesn;t fall into that then you are outside the scope of this and don't have to provide one.
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Admin		#4 Posted : 27 January 2005 10:29:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Jonathan Breeze Bulk storage of finely divided organic powders in unearthed silos can potentially pose an explosion hazard. Similarly the product should not be disposed of in an environmentally insensitive manner. But whether you need an MSDS - I wouldn't have thought so because the items are not chemicals under the current CHIP Regs definition. Put another way, we don't get a MSDS when we bulk by coffee granules for the staff kitchen.
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Admin		#5 Posted : 27 January 2005 10:37:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Gordon Thelwell Perhaps not your household quantities of butter but bulk quantities and more specifically the addedd ingredients could pose a significant hazard. Take a look at the MSDS Database for yourself. Good point regarding the explosion hazard. Gordon.
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Admin		#6 Posted : 27 January 2005 10:59:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Jonathan Breeze Gordon, I've now checked the following link: http://msds.ehs.cornell....msdsdod/a481/m240213.htm You have to type in the correct phrase (milk powder is what I eventually used) otherwise you get a MSDS for somthing that is definitely not buttermilk & produced by a chemical plant in Buttermilk Lane, Mass.
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Admin		#7 Posted : 27 January 2005 11:14:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Gordon Thelwell LOL, yes i noticed that myself. I don't fancy Zinc Milk in my tea. Like many things i find in life, it's not just about getting the right answers, it's asking the right questions. 8-)
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Admin		#8 Posted : 27 January 2005 14:52:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By James Perry Thank you for the pointers, I think the butter on may be alon the lines of: "In case of spillage absorb with large quantities of toasted tea cakes and bagels. " Regards Jim
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Admin		#9 Posted : 27 January 2005 14:59:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Jonathan Breeze James, You never told us, what sort of quantities are we talking about here? Are we talking serious bulk items e.g. 20 ton tankers at a time for industrial scale manufacture or a catering tub of Coffee Mate milk powder? Enquiring minds would like to know.
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Admin		#10 Posted : 27 January 2005 15:31:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By James Perry Apologies, Quantities of supply are: 20 x 1 tonne pallets in 25kg boxes/bags(40 units per pallet) for butter and skimmed milk powder. Per trailer delivered or 25 tonne bulk powder transport lorry. Regards Jim
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Admin		#11 Posted : 27 January 2005 15:36:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Jim Walker James, May I apologise on behalf of my fellow forum posters for all these inane comments. I presume you have developed a thick skin over the years. I'm afraid I have nothing sensible to add (resisting daft jokes) - assume you are aware of dust explosion hazards. The General Foods explosion springs to mind. As to the rest of you -BEHAVE YERSEN!
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Admin		#12 Posted : 27 January 2005 15:39:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Jim Walker James, Ever dropped a pallet of butter? Just interested about which way up it landed.
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Admin		#13 Posted : 27 January 2005 16:25:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By James Perry On its side, on top of my forklift cab, but thats a different story!! And obviously, a long time before I was a safety rep! (Honest!!)
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Admin		#14 Posted : 27 January 2005 18:57:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Stuart Nagle Butter of course melts, and could be a serious fire hazard if this occurred, due for example to problems in refridgeration or cooling, so better consider this item for a fire risk assessment. also.... I seem to recall some time ago there being an environmental case following the loss of bulk liquid milk into a water course...!!! food for thought!! Stuart
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Admin		#15 Posted : 28 January 2005 11:45:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By J Knight I have come across food which should have been covered by COSHH (most recently in a themed 'food' outlet owned by a large national chain); but surely this is the kind of thing which would give Mr Clarkson and the leader writers at the Telegraph apoplexy (on second thoughts, would that be a problem?) John
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Admin		#16 Posted : 10 February 2005 10:40:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Clare Hi James You could try ChemSoft Ltd for your MSDS's. They produce MSDS's along with other H&S documents on a consultancy basis. www.chemsoft.co.uk sales@chemsoft.co.uk
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