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#1 Posted : 27 January 2005 16:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ed Carter Can any of the readers comment on the report, apparently in some Newspapers, that the NRPB have carried out tests which allegedly have shown that there is a danger to eyesight from the beams of the electronic whiteboard projector's? Any comment or direction as to where the reports are will be gratefully received Ed
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#2 Posted : 27 January 2005 16:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Breeze Ed, I read about it as well. It's on the HSE website at: http://www.hse.gov.uk/ra...ionising/whiteboards.htm We have on of the offending items but it is seldom used. Other than that I offer no comment.
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#3 Posted : 27 January 2005 16:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gordon Thelwell You have GOT to be joking!
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#4 Posted : 27 January 2005 17:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By Pete Driver No, unfortunately this is one of the increasingly common events that makes H&S a laughing stock. Even the HSE get caught up in it. Oh for the use of some 'common' sense in this increasingly nanny state we live in.
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#5 Posted : 27 January 2005 17:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Webster Doh!! Does this mean we should point the projector at the screen and not at the audience? And then when we are standing at the front talking to them we should look at them and not back up into the projector? Sorry folks, looks like we are going to have to change our presentation technique, and give up making shadow animals with our hands.
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#6 Posted : 31 January 2005 18:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jeff Manion You could try the following link. http://www.hse.gov.uk/ra...ionising/whiteboards.htm Jeff Manion
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#7 Posted : 01 February 2005 09:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Breeze Er, yeah Jeff. I already posted that one 3 days previously! Good link though.
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#8 Posted : 01 February 2005 11:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By fats van den raad I'm waiting for the HSE Giudance to come out that points out the particular hazards of staring directly into the sun!!!
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#9 Posted : 01 February 2005 11:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Calum R Cameron I think this industry needs to get a grip. Lets worry about the things that are worth using our valuable time on. This is utter rubbish-whatever next-risk assessment for writing.......
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#10 Posted : 01 February 2005 11:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alan Hoskins Does this mean an end to DEATH by POWERPOINT ??? Alan
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#11 Posted : 02 February 2005 14:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By Andy Petrie I like how HSE recomend the use of a laser pointer so that you don't stand in the beam. For those who don't know laser pointers are much brighter then the projector and cause more damage. I'd like to see HSE installing a link to the a page on the safe use of laser pointers. Is it just me or does this remind anyone else of ghostbusters? whatt happens if you cross the beams?
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#12 Posted : 02 February 2005 14:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Andy Petrie There is a link on the HSE site with an abstract of a report they commisioned, this is it. "A significant exposure for many people at work comes from the sun. It is unlikely that engineering controls will be effective in managing exposure to this source." I would consider sunglasses an engineered control. Maybe these ideas are a bit to radical for some people though.
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#13 Posted : 02 February 2005 15:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Hay What about tripping over the power cable (not afraid to admit I've done this a couple of times!)? Is it any surprise the media have a field day with 'nanny state' headlines when the HSE are issuing this sort of advice? Keep away from the light! Keep away from the light! Paul
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#14 Posted : 02 February 2005 15:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By steve e ashton Paul I understand the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off in the interests of efficiency. Steve
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#15 Posted : 02 February 2005 15:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By Heather Aston Steve I understood it was the headlamp of an oncoming train.....
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#16 Posted : 02 February 2005 18:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By Sam Smith We are all taking this very seriously and have started looking into it.
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#17 Posted : 02 February 2005 20:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By Martyn Hendrie RE message on tripping over cables. I have always found gaffa tape useful. If you remember to use if fine. If you don't, you can tape delegates mouths closed to stop the laughing when you trip
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#18 Posted : 03 February 2005 08:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By Patrick Teyhan What! "you gotta be joking"? This dismissive attitude towards the safety of others seems to be more common place at the start to threads these days. With no dis-respect to the mans memory intended, did Steve McQueen (as a jobbing actor) and his mates have the same attitude to the reported dangers of the dust in the brake disc factory! The Fact of the matter is that these white boards are growing increasingly more popular in schools as teaching aids. We should not scoff, a generation could be at risk from incorrect application and over exposure. From my school days, the biggest danger faced by a child in the classroom was from being struck by the board rubber for not paying attention. This was acute exposure to danger. School children these days may potentially have an exponentially higher chronic exposure to an unseen danger in the classroom, but who knows? This can't be serious "cos the worlds gone mad"! Regards Patrick Teyhan
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#19 Posted : 03 February 2005 10:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By KEVIN O'KANE I recently came across a tv programme on reclaimation, which had 2 guys removing a victorian wash-hand basin inside a occupied building wearing .......high vis vests and hard -hats.....WHAT!!!! I tuned in the following week and the task was to transport a red post-office pillar -box( approx weight 1.5 tonnes)from a yard to a customers front garden using lifting equipment etc with guess what....no hard -hats and trainers.No wonder we get the stick we do.
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#20 Posted : 04 February 2005 15:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By Martyn Hendrie I think Patrick may have missed the point in his comment about dismissive attitude. As someone who uses this type of equipment at least 3 days each week I do not doubt that looking into the lens can be damaging to the eyes. The point is that the HSE guidance is a bit like saying don't take a baking tray out of a hot oven without oven gloves. It hurts. When you inadvertently get caught in the projector beam you don't stand there looking at it (it hurts) you move out the way.
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#21 Posted : 04 February 2005 16:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert S Woods I can categorically say without a shadow of a doubt that looking into the beam of the projector is harmless. I spent 15 minutes doing exactly that this morning. Stairs however are very dangerous, especially when you have a big white glare spot in the middle of your vision.
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