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#1 Posted : 04 February 2005 18:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By Karen Todd
Hello all,

I was walking past shops in a town centre today, where there was a lot of refurb work going on in one of the shops. I looked a bit closer, and noticed a bloke walking about and working away (at lights) on stilts!!!

They added about 18" to his height. They were of metal construction and were securely strapped around his legs.

Anyone else ever seen anything remotely like this???

Better than standing on a milk crate?!

Karen
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#2 Posted : 04 February 2005 22:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mike Charleston
Yes Karen

I came across them when a contractor was engaged to remove/replace suspended ceilings throughout a multi-story office block in the Square Mile. It emerged that they are pretty standard pieces of kit for them.

In our case the RA justified refusing their use because we had all the office furniture in place, covered with protective plastic sheets and hardboard protection. We didn't need too much imagination to foresee all the slips and trips that would cause!

Mike
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#3 Posted : 04 February 2005 23:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Terry Smyth
Stilts???????????
Good powers of observation Karen!

Very perceptive! Can't remember ever seeing that before! how would such a thing reflect in litigation? (On accidents)?

Is there any case history against such things as slips or trips ? I wonder? mmmmmmmmmmmmm!

Any case history of such?

Interesting, with the Working Heights Directive?

Regards

Terry
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#4 Posted : 05 February 2005 00:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By colin
Stilts are used alot in the construction trade, many tradesmen use them, plasterers, electricians, suspended ceiling fixers and drywalling. £150-£250 a set.
Stilts have been around a long time. I've watched hundreds in use over the years and have been told by the users that the stilts are really easy to use after a day or so practice, I never saw an accident while someone was using them.
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#5 Posted : 05 February 2005 08:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Pete Driver
No, I've never seen (or heard of) an accident with them either. It is a perception they create a higher risk, not a reality. Why? Because the people wearing them take more care in ensuring the floors are clear - hence reducing the risk!

Which may be worth thinking about before 'banning' them. Sometimes the people on the 'shopfloor' know best!
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#6 Posted : 05 February 2005 09:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By Karen Todd
Terry - yes, I did nearly take a buckle in my eye when I first saw them, then realised I was not seeing things.

Pete - I did notice that the floor was particularly clean and tidy and free of obstructions.

I couldn't see that well, but it looked like the stilts had a very small 'foot' area in contact with the floor (when compared to the sole of a boot), so I suppose the smallest obstacle that the user stood on could cause them to lose their balance, hence clean and tidy floors v. important.

I guess when you learn to walk in them you quickly get the hang of it - much like riding a bike.

Regards,
Karen
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#7 Posted : 05 February 2005 09:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Karen Todd
For anyone who wants to see what they look like:

http://www.all-wall.com/acatalog/Stilts.php

Karen

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#8 Posted : 05 February 2005 11:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Trevor Pierce
Awaiting my first appointment in a H&S role, working as a porter in A&E Dept. (keeping body and soul together, and keeping the wolf from the door etc), chap came in covered with plaster, with a arm injury.

From a H&S interest, asked him how he got the injury, and you guessed it, came off the stilts.

X rayed, broken arm, so accidents from stilts do happen!

Trevor
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#9 Posted : 05 February 2005 11:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tom Clark
Bit of a 'tall' tale.
Yes I've also seen one or two people using them - Good idea for minor works - could be a lot safer than some the ladders I've come across.

Tom
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#10 Posted : 05 February 2005 13:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By Pete Driver
Not denying that Trevor. It is self evident accidents occur in any job. I said I hadn't heard of one or seen one.

Unfortunately I can't say that anymore.

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#11 Posted : 05 February 2005 15:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Pope
Karen

next time you see them ask to try them on.

They mimick the spring in your step that assists movement and can even be used to go up a stepladder! I tried them on, and they are esier to get used to than learning to ride a push bike. But I baulked at going up a pair of steps in them. Not much fun picking up things that you drop though. Main point to watch I feel is that stair handrails are no longer effective.
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#12 Posted : 10 February 2005 21:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By joseph byrne
I work for a housing maintenance firm and our plasterers have used these stilts for many years for plastering ceilings the only doubt we have about them is musculo skeletal problems in the future, so must be monitored. Oh and by the way some of these lads can walk on the stilts steadier than i can on my feet when sober.
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#13 Posted : 10 February 2005 21:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By joseph byrne
I work for a housing maintenance firm and our plasterers have used these stilts for many years for plastering ceilings the only doubt we have about them is musculo skeletal problems in the future, so must be monitored. Oh and by the way some of these lads can walk on the stilts steadier than i can on my feet when sober (Karen stop looking in shop windows at builders).
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#14 Posted : 10 February 2005 22:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Karen Todd
Joseph,

Tut tut!

I can remember when I did fire extinguisher training, and had to phone the control room of the fire brigade to tell them what we were up to. Their response was that they'd make a note in the file, but if a call came in that was unclear, they couldn't guarantee that they wouldn't attend. Anyhow, they said that should they have to attend, they'd show us what a big hose could do.

Now that'd be something worth looking at!

Hey, it's nearly Friday ;)

Karen
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#15 Posted : 11 February 2005 00:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By steve e ashton
Ok

So we're all agreed that stilts are used.

Does anyone have any factual statistics that say whether they are safer or more dangerous than the 'conventional' alternatves?

Steve
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