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#41 Posted : 03 March 2005 11:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Young
Thats more like the old Geoff....
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#42 Posted : 03 March 2005 13:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alan Higgins
I would not want to be a member of an organisation which gave me professional status and charged less than £100 for its annual membership. Even £100 is a bit on the low side. I would be more than happy to pay £200 per annum or even more. That IOSH has members who complain at paying £100 tells us a lot about how much work is still needed to raise standards in the profession.
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#43 Posted : 03 March 2005 13:20:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mark B
problem solved! Alan Higgins, you can pay mine, as well.

many thanks,

Mark.
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#44 Posted : 03 March 2005 14:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By Eric Burt
c'mon, admit it.... How many of you clicked on Alan Higgins' e-mail link to see who he worked for!!

;-)

Eric

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#45 Posted : 03 March 2005 14:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By GeoffB
Alan Higgins

I actually find myself agreeing with you. Generally the more you pay the better the service you get, and I for one would be willing to pay for an improved service from IOSH. If we want to be seen to be professional we have to pay for it. It might also reduce the reliance of IOSH on volunteers - who with the best will in the world cannot put in the hours of a full time employee.

Oh Eric how sad, an email address gazer - but try thinking backwards!!!

Geoff

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#46 Posted : 03 March 2005 16:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mark Talbot
Think of it as a simple comercial issue...

When moving from one job to another, I would not even consider going backwards on salary - I look for at least a £5k improvement as a guide. Not having MIOSH could mean I don't even get my cv on the desk during post sorting.

£100 per year [£60 with tax relief - free if paid for by the company] is a small price to pay for the benefits: the mass of jobs in the SHP; this chat room; discounts on training; legal advice [not just on H&S]; etc.,

Chartered status is essential going forward, as H&S is passed around like a hot potato, we need to raise the level of expectation on our profession. Being chartered really does help distinguish you from the guy who used to do security ...
I hate paying money for nowt, but this time I see real benefits from those letters after my name.

and then of course there's the friendships.....
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#47 Posted : 04 March 2005 20:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By David J Bristow
David

In life you have to speculate to accumulate!

Well worth the investment.

Regards



David B
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#48 Posted : 06 March 2005 07:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Grady
A week after i got my renewal, i got a letter that seems to suggest the MIOSH category of membership will be scrapped and unless i start doing a validated CPD (more money outgoing) then i will be an AMIOSH and thats it. I need this clarifying and its the first i've heard of it !
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#49 Posted : 06 March 2005 09:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By peter gotch 1
Paul,

Half way through January I posted....

there are all sorts of ways of getting CPD.

" In my 2001/02 cycle, I claimed 41 points of which 6 related to attending courses or conferences.

In my 2003/04 cycle, I claimed 38 points of which 7 related attending courses or conferences - including a 5 day IRCA lead auditor course - not entitled to claim 10 points for this as most of the course was very basis, ie, claimed 4 points in total for the more enlightening parts. Claimed 6 for delivering presentations, rather less than in the previous cycle.

But in both cycles, the majority of claimed CPD related to other activities.

So let's blitz that myth that CPD is about going on courses, again ! "

Paul - I am more than a little surprised that it has taken till March 2005 for you to find out that CPD was going to mandatory for corporate members of IOSH, as it is in many other professional bodies, who equally want their members to demonstrate that not only have they achieved a status, but that they then take steps to keep their understanding up to date, via relevant development activities.

Regards, Peter

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#50 Posted : 07 March 2005 09:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Hazel Harvey
Paul,
There were a series of articles about these changes in the SHP and on this web-site during last year culminating in a chance to vote for the proposals in a postal ballot to all members. This latter was circulated with the Annual Report and notice of AGM in November.
The whole process is about a move towards 'Chartered' individual status for IOSH members, one requirement of which is mandatory CPD for all those in this category. The CMIOSH will replace the MIOSH category towards the end of this year (subject to final Privy Council approval later this month).
The letter you received lays out the options that you might wish to adopt prior to this change. As the transfer to CMIOSH will require evidence of a full CPD cycle, the letters have been sent out to give you notice of the change so that you can be in the best position when the changes are implemented. Changing to Affiliate category is only one of the options, the better one is obviously to enrol for CPD and enjoy the higher status afforded by CMIOSH. As Peter has already posted IOSH CPD is not about attending courses, unless you want to or are required to by your employers. Many organiations offer CPD to their employees on a regular basis as it is a requirement of their job, all this is perfectly good CPD activity but the breadth of the IOSH CPD scheme allows you to include normal work activities where an amount of development is required or acquired.
The CPD scheme will also be available in a modified format in an on-line version later this year, this will cut down a lot of the more boring administration processes that people complain about.
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