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Posted By S.Alder
Hello all, in the midddle of a disagreement with the maintenance dept. My view: contractors should not be allowed to use company fork lift trucks or make use of our engineering facilities. Maintenance view : Contractors may continue to use the above. This comes on the back of a permit to work issue. Any thoughts please.
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Posted By Ross Stirton
Not uncommon (and not necessarily undesirable) in my experience....if the management who are responsible for said tools/plant/equipment are willing to send the time assuring the competency of the contractors and they have appropriate procedures/controls to ensure that only 'approved' personnel use it.
Obviously they'd also need to satisfy themselves that the tools/equipment were compliant, risk assessment were done jointly with all users (including contractor) and that insurance issues were considered/addressed.
Regards,
Ross
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Posted By Martin Taylor
Certainly NO to forklift trucks - if the job can not be done by your own people (possibly difficult lifting operation) then contractors should certainly be ket well clear of your equipment - insurance alone will be a problem.
With respect to workshop equipment I would have a more relaxed view provided that the process is closely supervised by the maintenance manager and is only used as a last resort - e.g. if during an installation a part needs to be corrected by machining it may be sensible to allow mods directly on site (supervised of course) - don't let them use your workshop as a substitute for their owb shop
thanks - hope this helps
Martin
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Posted By S.Alder
Thanks for your response, our own maintenance guys are fully FLT trained. will look into the insurance issue in more depth.
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Posted By TBC
As mentioned four important aspects.
1. Joint participation in risk assessments and method statements. Although a joint Job Safety Analysis would probably do especially for equipment moves.
2. Sort out the insurance issue - whose cover.
3. Ensure drivers are qualified to operate the vehicle, the vehicle is fit for purpose and the forktruck is maintained and inspected to correct standards.
4. Supervision - competent person.
Good luck
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Posted By Laurie
Very, very, very rarely, if at all.
My policy states "Contractors may not use any company plant, equipment or facilities without the written permission of their company contact.
Such permission will not normally be given"
Perhaps I am unlucky, but I have found, in the main, that contractors are the weakest link in my health and safety chain
Laurie
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Posted By Robin B
What tasks do the contractors need to use FLT's for that your own people are seemingly incapable of?
Insurance is certainly an issue!
By and large I agree 100% with Laurie
Robin
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