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#1 Posted : 04 March 2005 12:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stevie Had this question put to me; Para 118 of RIDDOR guidance states: "Where the failure of an item of electrical equipment results in a fire or explosion, the failure is reportable as a dangerous occurrence if the equipment concerned is rendered unusable for over 24 hours, or if the occurrence was one with the potential to cause the death of any person." Question: Would the failure of electrical equipment without a fire or explosion but with the potential to cause death be reportable? My initial response was that it should be but after careful reading of this para I am not so sure as it reads as if the 'occurrence' and not the 'failure' would need to have the potential to cause death. Would be interested in your views. Stevie
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#2 Posted : 04 March 2005 14:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By NeilM Poyznts-Powell I would read that the failure without fire would not be reportable. The Regs seem to lean this way, if someone is electrocuted but does not become unconcious it is also not reportable. For my part I wouldn't report it but would ask that it were investigated as if it were. Hope this helps. Regards, Neil
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#3 Posted : 04 March 2005 14:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By Neil Pearson To my mind there's no room for interpretation (at least not in this regard): no fire or explosion, no duty to report.
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#4 Posted : 04 March 2005 14:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Terry Smyth Stevie Probabaly not! At least keep yourself right as a H&S Professional, Raise concerns about this and make sure you record them well! Ensure compliance with the statutory provisions, e.g. the HASAWA 1974 (Compliance "Safe Systems"), MHASAWR 1992 (Risk Assessment), EAW Regs 1989 (PAT Testing) etc. In my experience document everything that is reported to you! Regards Terry
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#5 Posted : 04 March 2005 19:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul J Williams As an enforcer, but I must confess not having read the Regs in detail for a while I would say it is not reportable. Re someone being electrocuted not being reportable, as stated by a previous respondee, I would have to say that this is always reported because by definition being electrocuted means to cause death byelectric shock. Apologies if I am being pedantic. I understand what was meant ie to receive an electric shock but not suffer an injury would not be reportable but in most cases the person would suffer a burn or some degree which would make it reportable.
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#6 Posted : 04 March 2005 20:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stuart Nagle Stevie. I believe this covers electrical short circuits or overloads, 'attended' by fire or explosion which results in a stoppage of the plant involved for more than 24 hours OR which has the potential (the fire and explosion that is) to cause the death of any person.... Stuart
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#7 Posted : 05 March 2005 19:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By Martyn Hendrie My understanding is, that if there is short circuit or overload combined with fire or explosion that puts the equipment out of service for more than 24 hrs it is reportable whether or not anyone was put at risk. If there was no fire/explosion or interuption for more that 24 hrs it is NOT reportable. Irrespective of the foregoing if the short circuit or overload could have lead to a death (taking account of the circumstances relating to the incident) then IT IS REPORTABLE I have always found this a difficult one in construction where an underground cable is damaged by a machine but no one is hurt and it is fixed within 24 hrs.
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