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Posted By Barry Tovey
I hope this is a valid point but, does anyone else agree there is a distinct lack of intermediate levels for safety 'practioners'? I use the word in its non formal sense. Most of the jobs advertised require MIOSH at management level, whereas some of us although having attained this honour are working at ground route level, dealing with managers but not necessarily being qualified as one. To step up to the next level, via say, assistant or some other terminology are either on short term contracts or are paid at the same level, we are already on. I suppose its a hard world and its the "experience" Catch 22 situation, and I should bite the bullet.
Any thoughts?
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Posted By J Knight
Interesting point Barry, one of the issues is the numerous meanings attached to the word 'manager' in our business. To an extent I think some of the manager jobs are called that just because somebody in HR has said 'what do they call safety bods nowadays?' so they stick manager on the role spec where ten years ago they would have put officer, and more recently adviser.
Certainly my job when I started it had no line management duties, and that could be one way out of the dilemna you're in. Take a job that's called 'manager' even though it isn't really, and make it into one. Start in a new post and argue the case for growth, I've seen this done on a few occasions and I'm kind of doing it myself at the moment; in a couple of months I hope to be a 'proper' manager, with line management duties, and not just 'managing a process',
John
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