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#1 Posted : 21 March 2005 15:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By Shaun Ingram We are currently looking to train one of our own personnel to carry out Portable Appliance Tests on behalf of the company , can anyone provide me with some names of course providers within the Shropshire / Midlands area and what sort of cost this would entail and as an add on to that how much the equipment to carry out these tests would cost to purchase. Thanks in advance Shaun
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#2 Posted : 21 March 2005 15:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jeff Manion www.parker-bell.co.uk have a tester and training video, there are more available on the internet. JM
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#3 Posted : 21 March 2005 16:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By SIMON HOWES Your people only need to be trained as PAT testers, not as electricians ie how to work the machine, what else to looke for (cracked cables, chipped plugs etc) and where/how to quarantine duff kit. Not a big deal, and something the reputable vendor would offer with the tester. One would hope.
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#4 Posted : 21 March 2005 16:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stephen D. Clarke Hi, The following web site looks useful: http://www.pat-testing.info/
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#5 Posted : 21 March 2005 16:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steven Shaun CITB do the training you require www.citb.co.uk steve
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#6 Posted : 22 March 2005 09:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By Lorraine Shuker Check out your local college ~ many of them do the City and Guilds certificate.
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#7 Posted : 22 March 2005 09:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris N Jones Most local colleges do it. Check out the City and Guilds website, they have a search of colleges in your area. Course details are: G&C 2377/02 - Portable appliance testing. As a guide our local college charges about £130 per person.
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#8 Posted : 22 March 2005 12:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By Adam Jackson City and Guilds 2377 is indeed good. Premier Training in Salford do it, price around those quoted above. I believe anyone undertaking PAT needs to go through that course, or an equivalent such as the CITB. Watching a video, etc. is not good enough.
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#9 Posted : 22 March 2005 15:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By Shaun Ingram Thanks for all the replies , ref Adam's comment , is it necessary for those carrying out the PAT test to go through the CITB training rather than go to private company's who offer cheaper options ? , my local college do offer the CITB route but it stipulates that it should be qualified electricians only attending the course. Thanks again Shaun
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#10 Posted : 22 March 2005 15:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Adam Jackson I did carefully include an "or equivalent" in there.. :) Personally, I would and do insist on something like this be to City and Guilds or CITB standard and certified as so as a measure of the course. It can also be good for those attending it - they get a recognised qualificaton from it which can go with them in the future if they leave. I'm a big sceptic of bodies setting themselves up as the only way to get a 'proper' course in something and at the end of the day you don't have to go down the C&G / CITB route. But, I believe this is one of the cases where its good to do so.
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#11 Posted : 22 March 2005 16:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By J Knight For what its worth I'd like to add my twopennorth. We are talking about combined inspection and testing here, aren't we? This is worth getting 'proper' training for; even if not using an accreditation route we should get course aims and objectives, learning outcomes and so on, and it does help to have faith in and knowledge of the provider. You also need to check on what your testers are doing. This is why. We were getting a 'trained' PAT tester to inspect and test items before they went on sale in Charity shops. He was passing lamps with cotton insulated plaited cable; one formal caution from trading standards later and we won't be doing that again. And then again, I took a plug cover off a toaster which had a lable saying 'Inspected and tested, retest 06/05'. What was underneath? A 13A fuse, as much use as a chocolate fireguard; and that was an external contractor. I don't think it's worth cutting corners on this one, get them trained properly and get them using robust systems, John
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#12 Posted : 23 March 2005 10:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Roger the Dodger No problems with most of the comments put forward on this page - except the organisation who won't allow people to attend a PAT course unless they are already electricians! HSE guidance indicates that there is no requirement for someone undertaking PAT testing to be an electrician. Sure someone who has been properly trainined via one of the routes indicated by other posts is very desirable. Having said that, someone with a fundamental interest in building service/technology is likely to be more interested and already have a fair basic knowledge of the electrical safety issues involved - is likely to be a good candidate e.g. maintenance people, estates officer etc
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