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#1 Posted : 08 April 2005 09:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stephen D. Clarke Hi, When I started work as an apprentice printer in the late 60s one task was to dust freshly printed cards, letterheads etc with gold or silver powder to create a gold or silver printed effect. Whenever I did this job I was given a pint of milk, H&S law required it apparently. Has anyone heard of this or know the origin of this practice or did I imagine it?
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#2 Posted : 08 April 2005 10:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By mike grey It was probably done to encourage vomiting if you inhaled or ingested any "nasties"
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#3 Posted : 08 April 2005 10:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By peter gotch Hi Stephen, All down to historical precautions for lead exposure. The calcium in the milk would reduce lead absorption. Regards, Peter
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#4 Posted : 08 April 2005 10:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Heather Aston We were still handing out free milk in the 1980s - I'm not sure why as any requirement to do so was long gone. As it had become custom and practice it was very hard to get stopped - even when we found that one or two workers had changed thier "daily pinta" to a daily carton of orange juice! Heather
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#5 Posted : 08 April 2005 11:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Webster After reading http://www.alphaomegafood.com/cowmilk.htm you will probably conclude that we should now do a CoSHH assessment before offering milk at work!
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#6 Posted : 08 April 2005 11:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stephen D. Clarke Fascinating - I always drank 2 bottles of milk at school but my son's asthma is markedly worse when he drinks milk. I believe the Japanese don't tend to drink much, something tells me there isn't even a Japanese word for milk. An epidemiological study would be interesting if it hasn't already been done.
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#7 Posted : 08 April 2005 12:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Baynes There was a thread on this subject before. See Milk for Welders, posted by John Harrison in the OSH Chat Forum on 29/04/2003
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#8 Posted : 08 April 2005 13:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert (Rod) Douglas Stephen, When I started work as an apprentice Panel Beater (1976) I was given a free Pint of Milk a day and so were the other Panel Beaters I was told it was because it was a dusty environment???????? Aye, Rod D
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#9 Posted : 08 April 2005 13:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jay Joshi That was before COSHH. Post 1988 (and probably earlier for the enlightened), the hierarchy of control measures is to substitute, avoid etc etc and not to "treat" it after it has been absorbed in the body!
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#10 Posted : 08 April 2005 13:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By George Wedgwood Yes, it has all been discussed before as pointed out - also given to steel workers in the 50's and 60's to help with the fume and dust!
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#11 Posted : 08 April 2005 15:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Allen As a trainee Factory Inspector in the 1970s I well remember being proudly told in one welding shop how they provided the welder who worked on galvanised with his pint of milk a day. Despite a search in the FI files I could find no basis for the belief although an older inspector told me it was widespread. It’s interesting how more than one industry seems to have maintained this belief.
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#12 Posted : 08 April 2005 15:35:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jeff Manion Have worked in a London location within last few years where asbetsos was present and they asked for their milk as they had been provided with it beofre when works with asbestos had been completed. JM
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#13 Posted : 08 April 2005 16:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Harrison Mike Click search over on the right and do one on 'Milk for Welders', I posted this on 29th April 2003 and got many good replies. Regards John
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#14 Posted : 08 April 2005 16:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Craythorne Another one of them old token health and safety control measures (if it ever had any effective control). In 1995 I took over as HS&E Manager at a large engineering company in Birmingham (formerely a Lucas site) and was amazed when I was asked to arrange the purchase of denim jeans for the guys who worked in the machining area. Apparently this was a tradition going back years and had been agreed between the management and union of the time. The reason for the issue of free jeans to machinists was that they regularly got covered in mineral oils from their old machines and the denim jeans had been provided as PPE!!! I wasn't very popular at first when I immediately halted this practice and set about making sure they didn't get exposed to mineral oils in the first place. The good old days eh!! How wonderful they were. Regards, Paul Craythorne
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#15 Posted : 08 April 2005 18:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By steven bentham I must of worked in the same printers, I can certainly remember the dusting of print. However the milk was for the compositors who worked with the lead type not the machine minders. From what I remember it was not free.
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#16 Posted : 10 April 2005 16:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Zoe Barnett A bit off-topic but anyone with asthma or similar catarrh-y sorts of problems will probably benefit from a change to goat's milk. My son used to get terribly congested sinuses, we swapped milk on the advice of an osteopath and problem solved overnight (literally).
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#17 Posted : 10 April 2005 21:35:00(UTC)
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Posted By Lynchy Stepen When I started work as Apprentice Painter & Decorator in 1967 I was told by the other blokes that I was entitled to a pint of milk a day to ward off the effects of the lead dust in primers and so on that were used in those days - but the boss, being a tight old git, never did give me any milk, just a clip round the ear!!! And anyway, the other blokes would have nicked it for their tea wouldn't they?? Lynchy
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