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#41 Posted : 18 April 2005 14:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By Eric Burt Jeremy Clarkson (and the makers of 'Top Gear' and 'Extreme Clarkson' ) are safety professionals. Some of the wild and wacky things they do are outrageous, but I have NEVER heard of any accidents associated with this programme and have never seen a stunt go wrong. (Unless you know otherwise...) The motto of the BBC is to educate, entertain and inform. Clarkson does all 3, with an emphasis on entertainment. If I want to know about consumer safety matters I watch 'Watchdog' and similar programmes. Because I enjoy cars and want to know about the latest models etc, I watch Top Gear. In Jeremy Clarksons 'Extreme Clarkson' videos, he deals with hazards, he assesses the degree of risk and he puts in place control measures........ (then he films it and convinces the punter that what he is doing is REALLY dangerous). Yep - IOSH should make Jeremy Clarkson an honourary Member! ;-)
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#42 Posted : 18 April 2005 15:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Black Clarkson is a prat, anyone with any sense will realise that. His programmes are a joke, I can't watch one (any of them) without falling in to a life-threatening cringe. Anyone prepared to listen to him, or to watch him, is probably beyond our help.
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#43 Posted : 18 April 2005 15:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Young Well thats that then, discussion over. I'm amazed that a "prat" can have his programmes so well liked that he's nominated for a BAFTA. We must all be beyond the help of the sane like the eloquent Chris..
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#44 Posted : 18 April 2005 15:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Heather Aston Chris You can't be serious. I find some of his performances a bit over the top and his "chat show" last year was cringeworthy. However you obviously didn't see the programme he presented last year on the VC winner. Only at the end of the programme did he reveal that the man was his father-in-law, who had never mentioned the fact that he had won a VC to his daughter. It was a fascinating programme. I like Top Gear. I don't have to agree with all the articles on it, but I find it entertaining. We in the safety profession command far more respect by meeting him half way than by dismissing him as just another speed freak who needs to be locked up. I guess I'm just beyond help. Heather
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#45 Posted : 18 April 2005 17:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Mackessack Heather, Hear, Hear! Couldn't agree more. JC (to his friends and admirers) also did an excellent job of promoting Brunel as a Great Briton. Top TV in my opinion and quite rightly deserved (especially against some candidates.......John Lennon? Princess Di?.......give me strength). I am, against all my better judgement, going to stick my head above the parapet and stand up for dear old Jezzer, even though I qualify for a double-whammy of being in two of his least favourite categories of person - safety practitioner AND a motorcyclist (cars are for getting from A to B - but otherwise, they really are just too slow for words). What we need to do is meet Clarkie (to his very good chums) halfway and enter into the spirit, along the lines of the old ladies spinning doughnuts in a Honda S2000 or 'Britain's fastest vicar', like they did last year. Perhaps it could be the 'Britain's fastest safety practitioner in a reasonably priced Volvo'. (although they may have to add another 30 minutes to the programme to allow for the vehicle safety checks and 'cockpit drill' etc). Frankly, I think we NEED the Clarksons of the world to help keep it real. John
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#46 Posted : 18 April 2005 18:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By Delwynne well that's several of us up for this 'fastest safety person in a reasonably priced and/or very fast car. Who's going to write to Mr Clarkson & suggest it?
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#47 Posted : 19 April 2005 08:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Heather Aston Sounds like a job for IOSH to me. HSE did invite Jeremy in an open letter to come and visit them but apparently he never did. Maybe this one might be more up his street (pun intended). Anyone got a sensibly priced Volvo we might borrow? Heather
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#48 Posted : 19 April 2005 11:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By Phil.D.Baptiste NO, we're falling into the trap....hasn't anyone access to a vehicle that doesn't induce a yawn!
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#49 Posted : 19 April 2005 11:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By Heather Aston Phil I've got a "lukwarm hatch" - it's like a hot hatch only not quite. John's got a motorbike. You have a small nippy yellow vehicle if I recall correctly from earlier. I assume it's not a Volvo. I think we should have Volvo vs Ferrari driven by safety professionals in a variety of tests including best lap time, safest parking, skid pan trial, obstacle course to be negotiated safely, etc. I volunteer to drive the Ferrari.... :) Heather
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#50 Posted : 19 April 2005 11:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Breeze If I recall correctly the new Megane got top marks on the NCAP Safety tests recently. Perhaps that should be the vehicle of choice. Just a pity it's so ugly!
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#51 Posted : 19 April 2005 12:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By Phil.D.Baptiste Heather, it's a 'sporting', lukewarm, like yours, but still fun....we could all go tank driving, that is fun, I didn't stop smiling for a week last time and that wasn't my first....then we could run over all Clarksons 'out of the reach of a most' vehicles....or off road racing, again puts a grin on your face! (and a skid in your shreddies). Philby
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#52 Posted : 19 April 2005 15:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman I had a test drive on the megan convertible a few weeks ago on one of renault's "pistes". Looks a lot better than the straight megan and goes like a bomb. Shouldn't think it's up to ferrari standards though. But it ("she" in french) has the top crash test rating of all production cars. Have also done the same thing with the Renaul/Volvo Magnum HGV. Now that is frightening, especially as you are about 10 feet up in the air ! Does JC do HGVs ? Merv
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#53 Posted : 19 April 2005 15:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman Now for the sad news - I drive a Rover 75 myself. Any offers ?
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#54 Posted : 19 April 2005 15:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By J Knight I have a Bianchi Gold Race, not a terribly hot vehicle, no match for an Airborne Zeppelin for example, but the big difference between it and all the tedious yawn inducing petrol driven lumps out there is that it only goes fast if the rider can push it hard enough; it depends on me and not some engine designer in a shed in Milan. Also, there is no car that can match the thrill of doing over 40 mph downhill with no servo on the brakes, no crumple zones and not even any doors. Engines are for shifting loads, and aren't terribly exciting, John
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#55 Posted : 19 April 2005 15:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Young How do you get yourself (un) notified from responses to threads?. This one has gone downhill v quickly
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#56 Posted : 19 April 2005 15:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Breeze It's funny Merv, but I prefer the older model, I just don't do big butts! The new Megane looks like some sort of grotesque African totem! Even the assurance that I would be safe driving one is not enough to overcome the revulsion I feel towards them. Two bob and a pickled egg for your Rover, it's about as good as you'll get!
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#57 Posted : 19 April 2005 15:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Black Oh dear I seem to have upset quite a few of Clarkson's devotees by my swingeing criticism. Heather, you are right. I didn't see the VC programme. That is because the beloved Jeremy was in it. I don't deny that Clarkson is very popular, but then so are McDonalds, Gareth Gates, and self-mutilation amongst teenage goths. Case rested
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#58 Posted : 21 April 2005 11:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Mackessack Good grief! There we were, getting nicely surreal with Volvos, Ferraris and how to stymie Clarkie and someone starts a debate about a Renault Megane! Now I've got that blooming Groove Armada track stuck in my head (you know, the "I see you baby - shaking your Rs" one). Thanks very much! Va Va Voom to you too.
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