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#1 Posted : 05 May 2005 20:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Grainne Kelly I am looking for a simple tool that can be used by anyone who needs to work at height and needs to assess whether a ladder is a suitable method of access. I'm sure I used to have one but can't find it anywhere in my files or on the internet. Has anyone got any simple assessment material that they would be willing to share? Thanks in advance for your help.
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#2 Posted : 06 May 2005 07:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Raj I am also looking for the same. please do send me also if anybody has anything. Shall appreciate it. warm regards raj
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#3 Posted : 06 May 2005 09:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By Charley Farley-Trelawney Grainne Surely the best tool in the world has to be your own assessment of the situation, as to whether the ladders are acceptable, is it short term? Long term? (the latter provides an answer there, duration of work, 1 minute, a couple of days, (there is another answer) the height involved, the inclement conditions, general site or area conditions, and you could go on, my point being that there is no system that replaces the hands on eyes at it, and your past experience with consideration of the WAH regulations, (check out the 2005 regs). Whilst not wishing to poo poo your request for a system, try the general risk hierarchy, try and eliminate the use of ladders, if not then look to replace them with another suitable means of access, towers, ladder cages, MEWPS, (bearing in mind training and certification with the latter) if however its a simple 5 minute job and you are satisfied with the general method that has been decided then let the works proceed, take it all into consideration, the height, 3 metres, 15 metres, now there is another answer with the latter, consider if a PTW is applicable for the work. I use a very simple tool, its regulations, my own experience and finally if all regulations acop’s and general guidance looks like a minimum standard then I will exceed what is required, however, I still find the best way of deciding is the ol 'gut' feeling, if in doubt ,find another way of doing it. So there we are, you actually had the tool all this time! Good luck. Charles
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#4 Posted : 06 May 2005 09:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mark Eden agree with previous response, but try this web site www.ladders-blma.co.uk
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#5 Posted : 06 May 2005 13:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Hunter The DTI used to produce a couple of leaflets- "The Ladder User's Handbook" and "The Stepladder User's Guide" -might be worth checking out their website. OK, they are aimed at householders/DIY, but the principles in these leaflets apply just as well at work! They start off with questions like 'are you up to the job?', 'is a ladder up to the job?' etc. These same leaflets used to be available at local Homebase/B&Q as well
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#6 Posted : 07 May 2005 09:34:00(UTC)
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Posted By Sylvia Tyler A typical aid memoire to help operatives evaluate the risk is probably needed rather than a ladder assessment - eg, is the ground level, is the ladder you plan to use the right height for the job, will 3 point contact be maintained, is the ladder likely to be collided with by persons or vehicles, can it be secured, all the usual questions you need to address - then the assessment can be made. I work in construction and the site managers want one assessment for the use of trestles- not possible, every situtation different. lists to assist the assessor are the answer - not requesting "a" ladder assessment. Sylvia
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#7 Posted : 07 May 2005 09:35:00(UTC)
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Posted By Sylvia Tyler - forgot to say, a simple list is the tool you require. Regards Sylvia
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#8 Posted : 08 May 2005 18:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By rjhills With regard to your query, we had some advice from the HSE recently about use of ladders. They stated that a ladder should not be used for work lasting longer than 15 mins. This has been reflected on our risk assessments, and also communicated to all employees. Also essential on ladder risk assessments is the small matter of ladder type use/weekly inspection/monthly maintenance/disposal etc, and training for all ops in correct ladder use. Contact with UCATT stewards has also reinforced correct use. You would be surprised how often the HSE get quoted by the union now!!!
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#9 Posted : 08 May 2005 19:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul The hse have published a flow chart, it iscontained within their construction section on there web sitee in a document they published "question and answers on the work at height regulation" regards Paul Metcalfe-Smith
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#10 Posted : 08 May 2005 20:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By Grainne Kelly Just a thank you to all who responded via. the web and directly to me. My title was not very helpful - Sylvia was quite right what I was looking for was a simple checklist I could give to people who use ladders to help them decide whether it was the right piece of access equipment for their particular task. With all the feedback I have I am on the first rung (couldn't resist it)!
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#11 Posted : 09 May 2005 07:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By Micky Hi Paul - could you provide a reference for the flow chart page - I can't find it! Thanks
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