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#1 Posted : 12 May 2005 21:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Matthews It appears to me from previous threads, and the recieving and distribution of various documents and presentations that there is a real need out there to share good practices and information. Instead of one posting recieving dozens of requests for copies, would it not be reasonable for either IOSH or one of our more computer literate colleagues to set up some form of link where H&S Practitioners could post documents for others to view, use, etc... it would after all simply be sharing good practice! Any views on this? Chris
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#2 Posted : 13 May 2005 07:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stephen Boardman Morning Chris, I agree in principal about sharing best practise but. I am self employed and spend a lot of time producing documents, risk assessment check sheets, power point training packages etc. An I sell them. Secondly half the battle within health and safety is research and through this research we learn. there are plently of lazy practioners out there who are quite happy for the likes of yourself, me and many others to produce these documents for them. Dont get me wrong, I am more than happy to help out fellow practioners were I can, but in some cases they cannot be bothered to do the basics, and in such cases i tend to ignore the thread. I expect a little backlash from this, but just look back through the threads and look at some of the requests. Regards Steve
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#3 Posted : 13 May 2005 09:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bev I agree this would be a good idea. Stephen - I also see your point, however everyone who has NEVER used something someone else has prepared please say so on this link. It is always useful to see what other people have come up with and every now and then they think of things that would never have occurred to you. Because we all work in different industries, we all use different websites. I for one have found loads of useful sites via links that people have posted on this forum, that I would never have found otherwise.
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#4 Posted : 13 May 2005 11:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mark Talbot I can see both sides, maybe the answer is "contribute to use". Password protection of documents, password given to those who submit orignal works of worth. Needs a moderator and a host.
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#5 Posted : 14 May 2005 20:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kathy Smith I agree - this is an excellent idea. I work within the ambulance service and the H&S/Risk managers from all the ambulance services nationally, regularly share policies, procedures, risk assessments and advice. Rather than making us lazy I believe that it helps us to develop and forge closer links with one another. Through this we have developed a really strong network which is now having an influence at national (government) level. I am also member of the IOSH Healthcare Specialist Group and this is something we briefly touched on at our last meeting. I'll raise it again to see what members think as I am not very familiar with the rules and regulations within IOSH. I'll keep you all posted. Kathy
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#6 Posted : 15 May 2005 11:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By Philip McAleenan Morning folks, My company has been running a service such as you suggest for a number of years now. Those who wish to post their own materials for general and free use by colleagues in the profession may do so, providing that they own the copyright. We make no claim to anyone's material nor do we make anything from it, i.e. no-one pays a fee to use the service. You can have a look at the service at http://www.web-safety.com/Exchange/index.htm . Regards and best wishes, Philip
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#7 Posted : 15 May 2005 12:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By Nick Higginson Stephen Surely when you charge for these things, clients are paying for your expertise, advice and assistance in implementing/monitoring the checklists, delivering the powerpoints etc. In these days of free information on the internet, ebay etc. you are doing well if you are making money just off putting documents together. I can't see a problem with sharing general info between us - if you are paid by a client, then the document would be absolutely client specific wouldn't it? Regards Nick
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#8 Posted : 16 May 2005 12:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Wilson What an absolute wizard way of letting H&S 'professionals' 'consultants' etc make money off the back of other people. Think of all the 'tailored' policies and procedures out three which are just a regurgitation of HSE 'free' leaflets and guidance!! I am willing to share and have done but only directly on a one to one, that said if its sent electronically then it can be sent to anyone and the P2P can nick it from your PC anyway!
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#9 Posted : 16 May 2005 13:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By Arran Linton - Smith Although the idea of exchanging various documents appears to be a good one, anyone setting up a web-site specifically for this would need to find out exactly who owned the copyright to this material and then they would need to seek their permission before publishing it. This issue starts to become particularly interesting as copyright in work created by an employee is usually owned by the employer, unless an agreement has been made to the contrary.
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#10 Posted : 16 May 2005 13:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Nick Higginson A bit off the topic, but I just love Dave Wilson's email address. Nick
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