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#1 Posted : 16 May 2005 13:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ang. Please can anyone help? I have 15 Sales drivers who travel accross the UK. Can anyone enlighten me as to how many hours they can drive without a break and what Legislation covers this? Their driving hours are not recorded on their vehicles.If any of you have advice on what your drivers do, please can you let me know. Your help is appreciated, Ang.
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#2 Posted : 16 May 2005 13:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By J Knight Hi Ang, The only legislation as such at the moment is the general risk assessment requirement in the management of H&S regs, and of course there's the working time regs to consider. HGV drivers do have specified hours, and it is wise to set limits at least as low as these, since the police are now looking to involve HSE in driving deaths at work, and HSE will prosecute on failure to risk assess.. There has been a thread on driver's hours recently on this board, at least one of the answers to that seyts out HGV driver's limits inm great detail. We limit driving to a maximum working day (including driving) of 10 hours, no more than eight hours driving in any one day, and at least one 15 minute break every 100 miles/2 hours, John
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#3 Posted : 16 May 2005 14:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gerry Knowles Hi Ang, I assume that your drivers do not drive HGVs. There is no specific legislation for the drivers of light vehicles. However a risk assessment needs to be carried out and an appropriate number of hours put in place. I would advise this to be as low as possible. In the event of a road death the police would carry out the investigation and would be looking for a prosecution. So you need to be able to show your risk assessment, details of any driver training (training records), any information forms you get them to fill out (medical and other information). I have just imposed a limit of 10 hours including breaks with a maximum of 8 hours driving. With maximum milage 450 per day. I used to work for a company who had a maximum of 385 miles per day. I hope that this helps. Gerry Knowles
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#4 Posted : 17 May 2005 08:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stephen Boardman Ang, I have sent you some guidance direct to your email. Regards Steve
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#5 Posted : 17 May 2005 20:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stuart Nagle Ang. The RoSPA site has some very good dowloadable docs on road safety at work. It recommends maximum periods of driving after which a rest break should be taken etc. There is also case law concerning the length of hours worked and road traffic accidents, an article was published in SHP some time ago (last year?) Regards... Stuart
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#6 Posted : 24 June 2005 19:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stephen Clark The contributor who informed you that light vehicle drivers are not subject to any hours legislation is unfortunately incorrect. Light goods vehicle drivers are covered by British Domestic rules which are different to the LGV drivers hours rules. It can get quite complicated. However, car drivers are exempt from any hours regulations. The road risk, risk assessment will highlight any need for limiting driver hours. Please don't forget that the driving aspect of your sales people is only one part of the problem, the liquid lunches, mobile phones and on the hoof map reading will be just as important. If you would like any advice drop me a line, i've worked as H&S advisor for Hays Logistics, TNT, and Hammond Logistics over the last ten years, i think i've picked up a couple of ideas about road risk in that time... i hope ;)
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#7 Posted : 25 June 2005 11:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By Frank Hallett You might also like to have a look at an earlier thread Ang. "El Ninos Mileage Question" has had a considerable amount of response - much of it thought-provoking. Frank Hallett
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