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#1 Posted : 26 May 2005 13:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By Confusia We have loads of flat roofed buildings which are occasionally accessed by contractors to fix/install CCTV etc. Currently we have no edge protection and there are no anchor points for lanyards. There is also no easy way of access. Contractors tend to turn up on their own and access the flat room via a ladder propped up on an outside staircase. Obviously I'm not happy with this situation and would like to see changes made but I've only been here a short while and so want to put something forward that would be cost effective and sufficient. I'd appreciate answers from anyone who has also got / had this problem. Many thanks.
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#2 Posted : 26 May 2005 14:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By Andrew Cartridge Try looking for Sala Block on Google, this is a system that you could request your contractors use for fall arrest/protection. They could carry it with them, erect it on site, & take it away when they have finished. Hope this helps Regards Andy
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#3 Posted : 26 May 2005 14:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Garry. Ask you contractors to provide a risk assesment and method statement for the task that requires them to work at height. The extra cost for each contractor to provide a safe system of work would have to be balanced against carrying out the long term additional work that would be required to create a safe working area, ie constructing an access opening on to the roof + running lines & harness and lanyards from this point to the area of work + regular inspection of the equipment + training.
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#4 Posted : 26 May 2005 14:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By Confusia Trouble with the contractors is that I've inherited a system that has not been well managed. Anyone here can hire a contractor, so control is difficult (there is no purchasing department that could control this via an approved lender system). The contractors do have risk assessments but these don't really address the points and the contractors will only send one person. As they have ongoing contracts, the departments involved are reluctant to insist they send more than one person due to the worry of cost implications.
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#5 Posted : 26 May 2005 14:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Garry. What about setting up a permit to work system. You can't change attitudes and process's on your own and immediatly If you have team / management meetings you could get together some past case studies and indicate to your managers and collegues just how open to potential incidents/ legal action the company is. You could also try and point out to the contractors that they them selves are at risk of enforcement action.
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#6 Posted : 26 May 2005 18:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By Richard Hinckley We often provide contractors working on flat roofs with one of 3 solutions: Short Duration Work - Deadweight Anchor Device c/w inertia reel fall arrest block or static line with adjustable rope grab, these are stregically positioned to ensure fall restraint as apposed to fall arrest. The units are built up in manageble weights of less than 25kg to ensure compliance with Manual handling Regulations. They are designed to provide temporary protection for one person per unit though can be designed to be linked up for multi users with the addition of a custom wire running line. Alterernate to the we install permanent horizontal running safety lines where the operatives clip on their safety harness and lanyard in a safe area and with the bepoke travelling device they have free access along the cable without the needs to detach and reattach to the system. The third option is install hand rail either permanant or free stsnding, this offers a protective area to work within and requires only basic training to work within the safe area. I hope that the above suggestions help though I would strongly suggest the operatives who access the roof have received rooftop safety training and that you have a full permit system in place supported by risk assessments and method statements.
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#7 Posted : 26 May 2005 19:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Geoff Burt I would have thought the last option is fine for work such as described - a temporary fix for temporary access. Doesn't need to go all round the edge, just the areas to be used. One proviso though is not to leave them up in high winds.
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#8 Posted : 27 May 2005 17:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By David AB Thomas Remember, most retractable type fall arresters are only designed to work in the vertical plane, i.e. where the anchor point is directly above the user so that any force on the fall arrester acts in a direct vertical line between the user and the anchor point. If such a device is used in a plane other than the vertical there is a risk of the braking mechanism not working or of the anchor line passing over a sharp edge and failing as a result. See: BS 8437:2005 Code of practice for selection, use and maintenance of personal fall protection systems and equipment for use in the workplace. A retractable type fall arrester should be used only in the vertical plane unless the manufacturer’s instructions indicate that it is suitable for use in other situations. In case of doubt the manufacturer should be consulted.
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