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#1 Posted : 14 June 2005 18:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By Terry Smyth I would be grateful for my learned colleagues comments on how long "Training Records" should be kept by an employer. The training records pertain to airport fire service senior officer's. The official retiring age for this grade of employment is 60 years of age. However, some retire and carry on their careers as retained firefighters, within their local fire authority, possibly up to the age of 65 (as part of the old retained contract scheme). There is a possibility of some who may opt to retire at a younger age and yet continue with retained duties. Questions: 1. If a retired airport fire officer on retained employment, has an injury at an aircraft accident within his retained stations fire ground, would his airport firefighting training be admissible evidence on behalf of himself, or current employer? 2. Bearing in mind the nature of the similarity of the two occupations, which may involve working within chemical, biological and radiological environments, whether in an normal occupational environment and one of an emergency, exposure limits must be recorded and maintained. To what duration after leaving employment as a fire fighter? I must add, that in proportion to the firefighters on this station their is a significant history of cancer related illnesses, amongst the older and past members of the service, possibly due to a radar scanner being located behind the station rest room. All relevant comments would be very welcome! Regards Terry
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#2 Posted : 16 June 2005 01:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By Messy Sounds to me you need proper legal advice rather than H&S advice, thats my advice. (can anyone get more 'advices' into 1 sentence??)
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#3 Posted : 16 June 2005 08:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Fred Pratley From what you indicate and given the ability to transfer the training records to paperless systems, I would keep them for as long as possible. Medical records for asbestos workers have to be kept for 40 years I believe, so I would use this as my yardstick. If any other employer of your former employees wants this info, then just levy a reasonable admin charge to retrieve them, once you have individual's permission. Hope this helps
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#4 Posted : 16 June 2005 09:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By Frank Hallett Good morning Terry, for some reason I didn't notice this one earlier. As I understand your question, you are concerned about keeping records for an ex-employee who continues a similar activity for another employer. The fact that they continue to be employed in an essentially similar employment for another employer is not your problem unless a claim arises that could be specifically linked to their time in your employment. If an incident happens on your premises whilst the person[s] concerned are acting on behalf of their new employer, the pre-existing training records will only help to support you in any defence. The Fire Authority have the same duty as any other employer to ensure that their employees are edequately trained, and the Retained Firefighters are no different to the Wholetime Firefighters in this respect. The Fire Authority cannot rely upon previous employment and training to determine competence in the new employment, they must ensure that their training is suitable and appropriate to their own defined standards. I trust that I've understood the issue, if not, please feel able to contact me and I'll consider it further. PS - I'm an ex-fighter as well. Frank Hallett FIOSH, RSP
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