Posted By Danny Swygart Ask him to provide proof that it isn't.

Posted By jason telford the inspector is asking for a risk assessment as well as proof of the suitability of both plant and material this practise is not uncommon all you have to do is look in quarries and land fill sites lets keep thinking

Posted By jason telford That’s my point we have been in this industry for over 30 years (not me personally) These trucks are bought to move loads of wood chippings and to create stock piles This inspector is new and replacing the old guy who is retiring I think he just wants to put his foot down But he could be barking up the wrong tree (good pun)

Posted By jason telford Sorry you picked that up all wrong The point is we have worked with heavy industrial equipment for 30 years Moving and stockpiling material The HSE have been on site hundreds of times Not once have they had an issue with our mobile plant Like I said you see this kind of equipment used every day throughout various industries So to me asking the question now is a waste of time these trucks are built and purchased specifically for the type of work at a very very large cost and take into account PUWER Reg4 ps i also do hate the statement we have aways done it that way

Posted By Robert K Lewis Jason Some gut feelings first 1) If the inspector is asking for both a risk assessment and about the suitability of the plant and materials for the job he does not understand what a risk assessment is as you have no doubt done this in your RA 2) This is common for all types of earthmoving and loading equipment, it is only if the material is readily compactable and unable to be stabilised that there is any real problem. 3) One of the reasons these vehicles have the tyres they do is to reduce ground load. 4) I have seen ramps constructed successfully with sand - it is the angles which are important as long as the driver remains below the angle of repose there should not be great problems. I would far rather let the HSE try to place a notice in this situation as I feel they may simply be trying to push an envelope that is actually satisfactory if undertaken by competent drivers. Many years ago a young inspector closed down a local authority w/w mill because she could reach through the extract chute of a partially stripped and isolated circular saw and touch the underside of the blade. Her Principal could see the force of the Council's argument. Put an RA to the inspector stating clearly the limits and parameters to be followed in ramping and see what occurs. Of course the inspector might not understand the risk of a stack collapsing onto the vehicle when you ramp during the removal of the material. Bob

Posted By Merv Newman I'm sorry to go off the subject, just had a very good dinner in Toulouse, but is "ramping a volvo" anything like "muffin the mule" (for which one could probably get arrested, even today) ?