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Admin		#1 Posted : 23 June 2005 15:18:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By el nino All, El Nino is setting up a policy for company car drivers. What are your thoughts on setting limits on miles driven per day? How many miles? Scanning the HSE guidance has not helped on this one very much so I demand your wisdom and assistance! El Nino
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Admin		#2 Posted : 23 June 2005 15:26:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Lilian McCartney I would say for male drivers as little as possible on the grounds that women make much better drivers. Is this controversial enough?
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Admin		#3 Posted : 23 June 2005 15:50:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By DavidHaddon I would consider that setting a mileage limit would be grossly unfair on all those highly paid safety consultants with their big flash cars who are able to travel that much faster than the rest of us, in a much shorter time.
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Admin		#4 Posted : 23 June 2005 15:54:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Robert K Lewis Define Urban, extra urban or rural. It takes an hour to do 10 miles in Manchester rush hour at times and I can do 50 miles over the Woodhead Pass to Leeds in the same time. Stick with hours its probably easier. However to a degree I have driven some or all of the way but it may also be my alter ego doing it in the quatenary phase temporal distortion of the ninth dimension. Bob
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Admin		#5 Posted : 23 June 2005 16:00:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By el nino Bob - you are right, hours sounds more sensible. Any suggestions folks? El Nino
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Admin		#6 Posted : 23 June 2005 16:02:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Cr8r I did a driving RA a few years ago and decided to quantify excessive as being more than 100 miles or more than 2 hours driving. If you want a copy, give me your email and I'll send it to you.
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Admin		#7 Posted : 23 June 2005 16:07:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Bill Elliott How about a combination (policy to state) observe national speed limits in force linked with (your) working day (in hours) restricted by a twenty minute break after every 2 hundred miles travlelled.
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Admin		#8 Posted : 23 June 2005 16:26:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Frank Hallett Why not start off with LGV Drivers permitted hours and take it from there? Frank Hallett
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Admin		#9 Posted : 23 June 2005 16:33:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Ron Hunter Your "policy" would also have to refer to frequency of rest breaks on long hauls etc, but personally I don't see much mileage in it.
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Admin		#10 Posted : 23 June 2005 16:49:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Robert K Lewis The Working Time Directive - if I remember rightly has a clause that states if the driving hours exceeds four then the working day should not exceed eleven hours. But again depends on reverse temporal thrust Bob
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Admin		#11 Posted : 23 June 2005 16:52:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By John Webster So it's a good job I don't drive a company car, as El Nino might think I should be curtailed in driving from Orkney to Gatwick stopping only for petrol and a pee, and a sandwich and can of coke to consume with one hand when back on the motorway? It's my car, I pay my road tax like everyone else and I know when I'm tired 'cos I start yawning. And if I get bored, I can always chat to a few friends on the mobile. If we all drove lorries or company cars, we would have to keep stopping at overpriced motels instead of making use of the only time of day when there isn't a traffic jam on the M6 in Birmingham. Doed El Nino really run a chain of motorway motels? :-)
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Admin		#12 Posted : 23 June 2005 16:55:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By el nino Look - just because I have the odd share in the odd hotel chain here and there does not come into it ( please note - no, I am not Paris Hilton ). Bob- you may be onto something with that temporal thrust theory. El Nino
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Admin		#13 Posted : 23 June 2005 17:03:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Brett Day How about these for some pointers: http://www.thinkroadsafe...vice/drivertiredness.htm http://www.thinkroadsafe...ness/drivertiredness.htm http://www.thinkroadsafe...uk/advice/wrrs/index.htm As for the consultants in high priced flash cars, I wish when I worked for a consultant I started with a Corsa and made it up to a Mondeo (mind you it was black!). As for the eating with one hand, shame on you aven't you perfected steering with your knees so you can eat two handed, your table manners are terrible !
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Admin		#14 Posted : 23 June 2005 17:10:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By John Webster It's all very well keeping the wheel straight with both knees when on the motorway, but I have a manual gearbox and need a spare hand to change down from 6th when overtaking if I haven't finished the sandwich. Also needed for working the radio/CD/sat-nav and holding the mobile.
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Admin		#15 Posted : 23 June 2005 19:07:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Merv Newman Seriously, we have a company rule which restricts us to a maximum 10 hour day including a maximum of six hours driving (not including pauses). I drove from Toulouse to Orleans today, 400 miles, 6 1/2 hours including pauses, on motorways, then had a one hour meeting with client. Home is another four hours away so I am staying overnight. 35° C, just cooled off in the hotel swimming pool. Now ready for dinner. PS. Im driving a Rover 75 which has 190 000 kms on the clock (4 years old, well maintained, new tires). Any offers ?
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Admin		#16 Posted : 24 June 2005 09:12:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Jim Walker John, What car do you have? It must be impressive if you can drive all the way from Orkney to Gatwick in it.
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Admin		#17 Posted : 24 June 2005 11:11:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Richard Chalkley Merv, That'll be a right hand drive perhaps? Richard.
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Admin		#18 Posted : 24 June 2005 11:16:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By John Webster Jim I do have to put it on a ferry for the bit over the Pentland Firth.
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Admin		#19 Posted : 24 June 2005 12:08:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Jim Walker John, That explains how you keep the water out of the air intake then.
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