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#1 Posted : 11 July 2005 16:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stuart Hufton I have a new assistant advisor who needs to do the NEBOSH Certificate. It’s now many years since I did mine but I firmly believe that in general, the best way to study is block release (2 weeks ish) with one of the top providers. The standard of training and lecturers at local collages for day release courses seems variable at most and the quality of course notes fit only to start a bonfire with! I appreciate the block release method is more expensive but I believe it is money well spent from the point of view of: Quality of trainers Access to resources Skills and knowledge learnt Pass rates Overall skills gained Your views are appreciated.
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#2 Posted : 11 July 2005 16:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By Debbie Spowart I agree that some of the literature that you get from some courses ain't worth the paper its written on. I did my General Cerificate 6 years ago and chose to do the day a week for 10 weeks and exams at the end, purely from the point of view that although I had some safety knowledge I didn't want to 'blow a gasket' trying to remeber such a diverse range of subjects. I chose my course provider with care (went for a small company owned by husband and wife who had to achieve goods results otherwise the business fails). Got excellent folders of information and passed with flying colours. Chose them again when I did my Dip1 three years ago. Still excellent training information and of the 12 on the course only one failed the final written paper.
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#3 Posted : 11 July 2005 18:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By Charley Farley-Trelawney Stuart I suppose it depends on your assistants previous experience, if he has plenty of it, then the block may be fine, experience has taught me that if someone goes for the NGC cold so to speak they get referred more than often! I think I would always favour the 12 to 13 weeks, it gives them time to revise and absorb the information rather than just ending up with a qualification on paper, I tend to work on the basis that the paperwork comes second, the experience first, perhaps I am an exception; I would still judge a person within H&S on the strength of 'can they do the job or not, and blow the paper qualifications', these can be gathered later. So, long an the short of it; NO to the block and YES to the 3 months. There, that’s just my opinion. All the best Charles
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#4 Posted : 12 July 2005 09:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By MichaelM Morning Stuart It seems that we may be ganging up on you hear but we would never do that to another H&S Professional! I also favour the one day a week release as I went through this in 2002 and the lecturer was fantastic. It was not performed through a college etc but through a smaller outfit. The added advantage was that I got to read over the course material, we did 30 minutes of written questions on each of the days we attended and they also did a mock exam. The level of pass rate was also very high. A short sharp course may seem good from a business point of view as it will be over quickly and the person back to their normal routine but they may have to repeat the course again. I should also say that the NEBOSH NGC lecturer got me so enthused that I then went on to get my City & Guilds NVQ Level 4 in H&S, moved into H&S full time and never looked back! Michael
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#5 Posted : 12 July 2005 10:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By Andrew Porter I think it depends greatly on the learning style of the individual concerned. Knowing my own way of working and motivational needs I felt it made sense to concentrate it into the two-week block release method. This allowed me to dedicate those two weeks to Nebosh learning without the distractions and potential 'I'll start revising tomorrow' danger of learning over the course of a few months. Block release worked for me, but of course I have only done it that way so I can't compare with other methods.
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#6 Posted : 12 July 2005 11:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By Zillah Lester Hi Stuart, I did the 10 day block release, and found this was a really good route for myself. However, others found the course really tough, who had little or no experience at all. Ask your assistant, his/her preferred way of learning. We are all so different. (what works for one, may not work for an other). Good luck to both yourself and assistant!! in finding the right course. Zillah
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#7 Posted : 12 July 2005 11:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Caro M Stuart, I had absolutely no H&S experience when I was despached to a block course by my boss. The company who ran the course were excellent and had achieved good pass rates. Everyone on my course passed, many had failed elsewhere previously. I even got a distinction, which made the hard work over the hottest few weeks of the summer worthwhile! I think it really does depend on the individual and the trainer/lecturer. I preferred the block course as I had a deadline to work to with few distractions. I still use the company who trained me for consultancy work, if you would like details please email me.
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#8 Posted : 12 July 2005 12:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter Hamilton Stuart, as previous replies suggest, I think it is very important to discuss with the trainee. However, in my experience of getting many colleagues through the cert, most of them found the block release more successfull. Pass rates for us on block release were always good with just the occasional failure usually due to nerves on the exam day or some personal life pressures that clashed with the exam period. All said it was intense learning but all the better for that. We had four people take day release route and they all failed first time and then went on block release and passed. Why did the day release not work for them?? They all said that they were not able to keep the motivation and concentration going alongside the rest of their life (work and private demands) and did not feel that they had the mutual support that the block release groups experienced. Those who took the block release options (some 40 or so) all said that it was better to be away from work pressures, really get focused and found working for two weeks with the others on the course provided mutual peer support that was most beneficial. I think that how you acheive the pass is not important, getting it done and recognising that it is akin to passing your basic driving test is more important (i.e. so now you know how to move a vehicle but drive??). Hope these experiences help and good luck Peter H.
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#9 Posted : 12 July 2005 13:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mark Talbot I also favour block release for the same reasons as above, and there is another dimension - you are only talking about the paper qualification... this will be built on by the practical experience. So we are not looking at sending someone off to learn and then throwing them in the deep end and expecting them to swim. As with all of us, they will have the written resources of a dozen different places to refer to anyway. Continuity of subject is helpful to me, I hate recapping for the first hour of a six hour [in effect] day.
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#10 Posted : 12 July 2005 14:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By Martin Thomas Callaghan IV GOT THE CERIFICATE I'LL COME AND WORK WITH YOU
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