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Posted By Alan Barthrope
I work for a Construction Company and we normally manage deliveries under cover of a general traffic management plan and method statement/SSW. I have recently been approached by a site manager who has requested that we try to obtain a written SSW from all delivery Companies prior to them attending site. I believe that as we manage and control all operations that are undertaken on site then we should devise the arrangements for vehicle movements and offloading etc, however there is a fair argument that the specialist vehicle/cranage operators, once directed to the offloading position should/would know more about these operations/activities than our site managers would and should therefore take control of the operation including the planning of it. We have had a couple of incidents lately especially on small sites where lorries offload from a position on the public highway and crane the materials on to site over the public footpath. I hope that some of you may be able to help me by providing your thoughts on obtaining such a written SSW from Delivery Companies and whether you have managed to actually obtain such a document, and do you think I should consider exploring this avenue. One benefit I can see from this is that we would hopefully get all the relevent training certs from each company prior to the first delivery, which will save time when they arrive on site. Please try not to drag the requirements of LOLER etc into this conversation. Any thought please?
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Posted By Garry.
You asked for thoughts on delivery on materials. One of the issues that has struck me about delivery drivers on site when delivering, is the 05 working at height regs.
Timber frame components laid flat on the bed of the lorry, the slinger has to work on top of these units to fit the lifting equipment, whilst carrying out this operation they are at risk of serious injury (possibly falling 3m or 4 m).
The SSW from these companies very rarely mentions this specific task, and what precautions could be taken. Possibly because they haven't thought of a practicle solution yet, but the issue is there and has to be dealt with.
There are very few site managers who want the process of unloading the components stopped, until the SSW is faxed to the site ( if there is a fax machine on site ! ). Everybody involved with the unloading of the components isn't really intrested in SSW because they have done it lots of times and they know what they are doing so clear off!!
The site manager has once again been left holding the baby, when really the arrangements for the documentation to be on site should have been organised much earlier in the process of delivering and building the units.
I some times get the impression that the term "teamwork" is a mystical term that house builders do not understand fully, and would rather work in a crisis management style rather than a planned style.
When all sections / departments work as a team and carry out their relevant tasks you usely get a safe & cost effectictive project.
The buyers or ordering departments should be more involved with the requirements for documentation so that any documentation can be requested when the order is placed, but we would proberbly get the argument, "Its not my responcibility"
No body apart from the site manager and construction management would be concerned if enforcement action was taken against a site or site manager.
It would be nice to live in a perfect world.
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Posted By Alan Barthrope
Appreciate what you are saying Garry.
We do gain written SSW's from any Contractors that take in such deliveries as roof trusses and precast floor slabs etc. The problem arises when material deliveries are made by supply only Companies. Thanks for the response.
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Posted By Ron Hunter
I suggest your site manager is being unrealistic in his expectations. Delivery offloading is always going to be a joint responsibility. On your enclosed construction sites, with the vehicle entirely within, it should be more straightforward to plan other activities to avoid conflict, ensure reasonable ground conditions, maneouvering space, etc.
On public highways, your site staff should be working with the delivery driver, employing banksmen to inform & assist pedestrians etc. You should be identifying these issues beforehand and taking advice from police and/or local authority roads department where necessary.
One of the key aspects on 'public' sites is planning the delivery time - e.g. to avoid peak hours, and having a planned temporary park-up area if the lorry turns up early + clued-up site agents who have authority to turn the driver away if he arrives outwith this agreed time.
I have seen national chain builders merchants making delivery to sites using hi-ab across public footpaths when there has been no project employees on site!
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Posted By ian mcnally
Alan,
This has often presented problems for us too. We now send out an extract from the Traffic Management Plan that includes a site location map and essential information for the delivery drivers which includes; weight, width, height, parking, one-way, un-loading area, restrictions. Also unloading methods, contact phone numbers. Suppliers are asked to provide details of the LOLER stuff (sorry won’t mention it again Alan)
Drivers that arrive on site without appropriate information have been turned away, although I wonder if this would be the case if down to the last bag of dust or stack of bricks.
We have a generic SSW format adapted to suit each site and this covers the unloading/loading methods. I must confess these are not perfect and state that vehicles will be unloaded by trained HIAB operators at predetermined areas with public protection being afforded by temporary fencing and banksman. I still see delivery drivers doing there own thing from time to time though and the point made about unloading trusses is a good one.
Loading gantries are used at some of our larger sites. I would like a quid for each time I see drivers climbing all over the trusses or even stacks of shuttering on lorries without adequate fall prevention measures in place. Think I can feel a standard letter coming on requesting how the supplier will manage such deliveries. Of course, if somebody out there has such a standard letter is would save me some time?
Good thread
Ian
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Posted By Alan Barthrope
Thanks for the response guys. Guess I will be going with my first instinct and ensuring that we take control of the management of this and ensure that our written safe systems cover such activities. Got to go now the thread's distracting me from the golf, and the forthcoming 2 minutes silence.
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