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#1 Posted : 29 July 2005 11:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By Richard L Morning Ladies and Gentlemen I’m wondering if any of you good people could offer any advice on the following query. I work for a couple of transport and storage companies that are involved with a pallet freight forwarding company. The pallet freight company has about 50 hauliers that deliver to and distribute from a central hub. It has been brought to my attention that a couple of haulage companies have been awarded contracts to distribute fireworks from the manufacturer via the hub around the country. I will be issuing information and advice as to the safety precautions when the fireworks arrive at the hub and subsequently stored at hauliers premises. However, I’m having a spot of bother with the actual transport issues i.e. what are safe quantities, can fireworks be mixed with other goods, are the drivers required to have the full ADR licence or is basic training and a fire extinguisher (as a means of escape) sufficient. I have spoken to the D.O.T., R.H.A and the H.S.E. and it does seem to be a grey area with no one being able to give me a conclusive answer. I have considered recommending that we steer clear but believe that with the right control measures and precautions we will be fine. Any experiences and/or assistance will be greatly appreciated, thank you. Richard
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#2 Posted : 29 July 2005 11:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By Debbie Spowart I'm not 100% sure but it might fall into the ADR regs as they contain gunpowder (UN no's 0027 and 0028), but in depends on the amount of gunpowder contained in the cartridge. The supplier of the fireworks should give you the information you'll need to transport by road legally i.e. UN no, product name, transport category and if it limited quantities or not. There are quite a few bits to do with expolosives i.e. trained vocational drivers, hub workers (FLT operators having had training, equipment on the lorry etc where they can park up for rest periods etc. You need advise from a Dangerous Goods Safety Advisor. If you want to e-mail me I'll give you the name of our DGM, he's really good. Debbie
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#3 Posted : 29 July 2005 12:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Graham Baskeyfield Hi, Fireworks have there own UN number & are classed as explosives (Class 1, un 0333 to 0337), with classification codes 1.1G to 1.4S.(ADR 2005) What you need to do depends on the classification codes (these depend on the explosive properties of the fireworks), you need un numbers & these codes from the supplier for each firework type. .......you will also need the services of a qualified DGSA.
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#4 Posted : 29 July 2005 12:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By Debbie S Have gone through ADR regs (and yes found UN no's for firworks as well) and there are quite a lot of special provisions for loading, unloading of fireworks and supervision of vehicles. We refused to transport them because of the implications etc
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#5 Posted : 29 July 2005 12:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Cook It would be worth checking out the storage requirements in MSER before continuing with the transportation process. Storage has been substantially altered in the last year, requirements and seperation distances have increased as have the licensing costs. The EIG/HSE LOCEF database provides some info on un numbers and hazard classes. Most firework companys handle their own deliveries with in-house ADR drivers because of these issues.
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#6 Posted : 29 July 2005 15:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stephen Clark As a safety advisor who has worked in transport for ten years my advice is that you don't touch the goods even with the longest barge pole you can find. To say you would be opening a can of worms would be an understatement! I reinforce the comments about getting the services of a DGSA, it's a legal requirement. Steve
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#7 Posted : 29 July 2005 20:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stuart Nagle I would also consult your company's insurer in respect of storage of explosives and transport of explosives. If this not within your usual modus operandi they may well refuse to cover you without an appropriate health and safety plan for the works and an audit to ensure the respective provisions are in place and competent assistance available. Stuart
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#8 Posted : 03 August 2005 20:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Messy Can't help much re legislation, but if you are considering storing fireworks, please visit this link before you make your final decision. It shows what can happen if things go wrong http://www.boreme.com/bo..._firework_factory-p1.php
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