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#1 Posted : 01 August 2005 17:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By Denise Brookfield Can anyone recommend a entertaining 1/2 day course on this subject please? Thx Den
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#2 Posted : 01 August 2005 17:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kieran J Duignan Denise 'Human factors' is a term commonly used for the interdisciplinary fields of 'cognitive' and organisational' ergonomics, especially in the USA; as it provides a worker-centred framework for assessing risks, it can provide an extensive framework for pinpointing sources of hazards. Behavioural safety applies cogntive and social psychology to measured systems of feedback on risk management behaviour where hazards can be reliably measured (as compared to psychological hazards or sources of error, which are inferred). Since 'human factors' and 'behavioural safety' are quite distinct approaches to safety management, any half-day course that aims to combine them may be more entertaining than reliable.
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#3 Posted : 02 August 2005 09:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman Come on Kieran, it would take Denise her allowed half-day just to understand your response. (sorry Denise, just exagerating for effect) And just because, in the USA, "human factors" has been hijacked by the ergonomics people does not mean that it is totally excluded/separated from BS. ABC analysis is used to identify Antecedants (or triggers) INCLUDING ergonomic factors which may influence the choice of behaviour. Consequences may include higher or lower exposure to, for example, WRULD. So you cannot exclude, in fact MUST include ergonomics factors in Behavioural analyses. As do you include triggers related to the immediate work environment, stress, personal and company goals and objectives, rules and procedures, warning signs ..... This said, I agree that a half day course would likely be more entertaining than informative. Denise, try the following books : Bringing out the best in people by Aubrey Daniels and The value based safety approach by Terry McSween. Both available from amazon. I think. Kieran, can you recommend any other books for denise ? Merv
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#4 Posted : 02 August 2005 10:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kieran J Duignan In relation to Merv's observations, his comment on my comment illustrates the difficulty about most ergonomics publications: they're largely written for small communities of specialists (and subgroups within the HF/Ergs fraternity). If only Merv's recommendationi that Ergs should be incorporated within BS held true... As far as I can establish, the division arises from outdated larger academic divisions between (Ergs and Occupational Psychology on the one hand, and Safety and Occupational Psychology on the other, which make it v. difficult to qualify across all 3 areas now). Anyway, he has stimulated me to go out to the garden to scan my library shed for titles The best is probably 'Ergonomics, Work and Health' by S Pheasant, Macmillan, 1991; a physiologist/ergonomist, Steve wrote exceptionally well and was world-renowned at the time of his death in 1996. 'Ergonomics for Beginners. A Quick Reference Guide', J Dul and B Weerdmeester, Taylor & Francis, 1993 is a short introduction to the key concepts; a more recent edition may offer more about the impact of computing on ergs in lots of workplaces. 'Evaluation of Human Work. A Practical Ergonomics Methodology' J R Wilson and E N Corlett, 1990 Taylor & Francis. 2nd edition. contains 38 technical essays by leading British ergonomists (including Pheasant), with lots of material on manufacturing and about 10 on safety and health at work. I also enjoy E Scott Geller's well researched, cartoon-illustrated books on BS and 'Total Safety Culture': 'Working Safe', Lewis Publishers, 2001, 2nd edition 'The Psychology of Safety Handbook', Lewis Publishers, 2001 While Scott Geller encourages ergonomics, none of the ergonomists refer to BS. I think they're all still available from Amazon, from whom I bought them
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#5 Posted : 02 August 2005 11:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kieran J Duignan Another useful and readable title is 'A Guide to the Ergonomics of Manufacturing', M Helander, Taylor and Francis, 1995. For someone with a working knowledge of engineering, this is probably a 'best buy' as a guide to ergonomics. The checklist in the Appendix could be a tremendous guide for him/her.
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#6 Posted : 04 August 2005 14:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stephen P Denise, When I was doing my Diploma, we had some sessions on this that I remember being very interesting. The course leader was a chap called Dave Williams who last I heard was leading the department at Liverpool Hope University. If I remember rightly it was Daves wife who took the HF / BS part of the course. It might be worth a call.
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#7 Posted : 04 August 2005 14:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Christopher David Lee Denise, I've been where you are. My experience is that the two subjects are distinct but with an overlap. Sessions which attempted to cover both ended up favouring one over the other, at least in terms of content. I found that attending two seperate sessions enabled me to understand better. The best I've seen on behavioral safety was John Ormond from the John Ormond partnership. One tip. Don't try to introduce a behavioral based safety programme at a time of major upheaval the managers and staff simply can't generate the commitment and it can become a tick in the box numbers game. Chris
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#8 Posted : 04 August 2005 15:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Linda Crossland-Clarke Hi I can recommend a couple of people who have delivered to the nuclear and petrochemical sectors. They focus on "behaviour modification" by looking at key safe behaviours of the organisation, and focusing on "soon, certain & positive" feedback. Email me direct if you wish me to pass on their details. Regards. Linda.
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