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Advice Needed (Changing career to construction safety)
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Posted By Jasonjg
Dear Colleagues
I want to try to change my career direction to a construction related role. I predict this may take at least 2 years of adjustments, gaining experience and a lot less money when first starting, but feel I would enjoy the challenge much more than manufacturing and am young enough to learn this new area at 32.
I have previously worked in construction in areas such as Shuttering Joinery, roofing, demolition and general labouring so not completely behind the door, but never in a safety related role.
I have worked in both Industrial and Chemical safety and quality related roles, but would view this as a total shift in Job responsibilities and day to day work activities compared to a construction safety advisor.
Having completed Nebosh certificate and Dip 1 and currently undertaking Dip 2, I am wondering what other courses would best suit myself to get a role within this field. I have also gained a P402 asbestos qualification and a teaching qualification.
I would appreciate any advice from some of today’s current construction safety advisors on the following subjects,
What is involved in construction safety i.e. How do you prepare CDM safety plans, files etc?
What different roles are undertaken within construction safety i.e. site visits or office based etc.
I am also interested in how a Type 3 asbestos survey are actually done within construction, as I feel the P402 was mainly aimed at type 1 and 2 and was very ambiguous in type 3 or maybe that’s me :).
Any advice, tips and hints would be greatly welcome
Jason
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Posted By Cr8r
Jason
Construction as a term covers many different areas.
You will most likely need to visit various sites, so if you want a desk job, don't go into construction. Also, you will probably be outside in all weathers - do you mind this?This may well involve a lot of travelling as you could have a wide area to cover, so think if this is what you want. The pros are lots of variety, the cons - lots of driving with early starts and long days.
As for CDM, like everything else, most companies will have their own procedures, forms etc and you may or may not have the free rein to change things.
Other than that, the people are down to earth, you will get lots of laughs and satisfaction from really being at the sharp end.
Good luck!
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Posted By Charley Farley-Trelawney
Jason
With the impending change to the planning supervisors position its a great time to consider your move.
Good luck
Charles
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Posted By Jasonjg
Thanks for the encouraging comments both here and sent privately.
Being a rough cut type of bloke, I find sitting in offices quite frustrating at times and often yearn to pick up a good sledge hammer and muck in to some good old grafting. Surely many other Safety managers feel the same at times or have I worked on shop floor for too long.
I had originally chosen Safety because it was interesting and something that could be very challenging as a career.
Now having the good luck to have worked in a manufacturing role, consultancy role and meet a few people in construction roles, I am certain that I would now prefer the fast moving and ever changing challenge of construction H&S.
I am just not an office-based person at heart and prefer to be out and about talking with people.
Do not get me wrong, I am quite sure there is lot more than that, and it does have its downsides.
Anyway, I will look into some of the recommended tips sent to me concerning possible good courses and how the actual jobs done.
Please keep them coming as I am a little bit unsure as to how much knowledge I would need of the building regs etc.
Best regards
Jason (sick of getting fat behind in chair)
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Posted By steven bentham
Jason
After many years I changed to work in construction from the public sector.
Although I am already qualified, I found the courses run by CITB to be very practical and helpful. (Try their web site, they have courses on safety management, shoring of excavations, scaffolding safety which are all good refreshers).
I would not get to hung out on the Planning Supervisor issues, not only do companies have lots on this, there is buckets of informaton.
Good luck. [I wish I had made the move years ago!!!]
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Posted By laurence
Hi Jason, i worked just like you in the chemical industry for many years.....boring. I now work in construction at sites all over. The culture is very different and often scary with the amount of foreign workers taken on in this country. You need to be straight, honest and stick to your guns when you advise. .If you compromise on any safety issues you will erode your respect. Often dealing with string vests and hard hats on back to front. If you respect them from day one and get stuck in, im sure you will be ok.
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Posted By Raymond Rapp
Jason, as one person has mentioned the CITB is a good starting place. Most organisations require a CISI training certificate and a NEBOSH Construction Certificate is even better.
I moved from a railway environment after 22 years of railways into a construction orientated role. The principles of h&s management are essentially the same, although the hazards and culture does vary.
I spend most of my time in reams of paperwork, quality plans, project management plans, construction phase plans etc. They are no big deal once you get the knack of them. But is that what you want?
Good luck.
Ray
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Posted By Jasonjg
Hi all
Thanks for comments.
I have made my choice now and am actively seeking work in the construction sector.
Just contacted about 10 agencies to find me some casual jobs on site so I can regain the atmosphere and refresh my memory as to how it all works today compared to when I was sprinting over two inch roof batons with six marley on shoulder and a 40ft drop underneath me.
As I have already spent £4500+ on courses and am still doing the dip 2, I do not intend to take the construction cert but have to accept CITB etc has to be gained so I will aim at them over the next 6 months.
Therefore, this time next year I may make a break into that sector. I am a patient man and will probably enjoy the casual work for a while.
Once again Thanks for the tips
Jason
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