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#1 Posted : 25 August 2005 16:20:00(UTC)
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Posted By Clive Billington Could someone please tell me if I have measured 0.015 f/ml asbestos after a ceiling tile has been dislodged, would it be reasonably practicable to pay for a clean up of £10 000 to £15 000. Normal background reading is 0.01 f/ml and the action level is 0.1f/ml. Thanks for any help
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#2 Posted : 25 August 2005 16:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By Fred Pratley Clive, Sorry I can't help on the measurement details, but if you are finding fibres normally anyway, would it not be better to bite the bullet now and do the clean up before it gets worse? Fred
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#3 Posted : 25 August 2005 18:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By Smurfer Clive Are you sure they're asbestos fibres which are being counted? If the area wasn't clean before the asbestos tile fell out, then the fibres could have come from anywhere... the counting rules mean you count respirable fibres regardless of the substance. You may get the analyst to provide a judgement (based on experience) as to the presence of asbestos. By the way, the <0.01 f/ml 'reassurance' level is purely based on the limit of detection of the sampling method - it still equates to 10,000 fibres per cubic metre!
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#4 Posted : 26 August 2005 09:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By Carrie Ellerby Clive, I'm no expert on asbestos fibre readings but I do know that you can carry out some small tasks with asbestos within your own company. Is it the tile itself which is asbestos or the ceiling above it? It may cost you less to train some Maintenance staff (provided you have this facility of course) in asbestos awareness and purchase appropriate equipment so that such jobs can be dealt with. HSE asbestos essentials task manual HSG210 gives examples of the kind of jobs trained staff can do. Carrie
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#5 Posted : 26 August 2005 17:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By steven bentham You are unlikely to get significant readings from just dislodging a ceiling tile. You don't mention if the tiles are asbestos! You don't mention if the tiles have been signifcantly damaged or smashed up. You don't mention if your readings were from a pump running without any background disturbance or with static air. Normally, clearance certification on asbestos removal work is done to <0.01 f/ml. So if the tests you have done are above that then this would not pass an air test following asbestos removal works and the licensed contractor would not release the area back to you. Action limits above this are for workers with ppe. If you need more advice e-mail me direct.
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#6 Posted : 06 September 2005 10:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Clive Billington I would just like to thank those of you who replied to my mail. Thanks to the professional advice from Adrian Watson and informative discussions with the HSE the matter is solved. As hoped, there is no need for an expensive clear up, which, as I had originally thought, was considered to be disproportionate to the risk. This unfortunate episode is just another case where certain persons are not prepared to manage risks. I am glad that our health and safety team stood its ground, just as recommended in the leading article of this months SHP magazine.
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