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Posted By A P Miles
Our company has issued liveried shorts to staff for work. Our principal client has objected, having (for their dress code reasons) stopped the use of shorts with their direct staff and now require their contractors to apply the same rules. I have carried out a risk assessment and prepared a method statement advising circumstances when they may be worn.
Has anyone had a similar experience, if so, how was it resolved?
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Posted By Charley Farley-Trelawney
Many years ago I had a similar situation; at the end of the day the principal client can make whatever requests they like, it comes down to whether or not you want to continue to trade with them.
In the situation I was faced with it turned out that the complaints were from female workers stating that the men in shorts were putting them off, (putting them off what?) I can't think why, perhaps some of the chaps were not really suitable for shorts.
With respect to RA's it’s if the shorts do not offer sufficient protection to the wearer, i.e. sun protection, scratches etc. We have many contractors attending site that wear shorts and do not as a company have any issue with it, in fact we are pleased to see ladies and gents wearing shorts, short fat hairy legs an the like, (and that’s just the chaps) I can however mildly understand the clients wishes, it just makes like slightly difficult for them to enforce the no short rule, having so said, it's a bit like the company’s that supply supermarkets, the restrictions, rules, procedures to adhere to are vast!
Whatever happened to democracy and freedom of speech and wearing shorts?
Charles
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Posted By Lorraine Shuker
What are your clients rules on long or short sleeves?
What hazards are legs exposed to that arms are not?
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Posted By Kinnikin
In answer to Lorraines question.
Wearing shorts virtually doubles the area of bare skin exposed to any hazardous substance.
In addition to this, cleaning of the area is much harder if a spillage occurs and much less liekly is a person is splashed. Whereas a person would / could wash his/her arms and hands relatively easily, the washing of the legs is more difficult in the workplace and as such much less likely to occur.
The long pants form at least some degree of a barrier.
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Posted By A. L. Ure
Perfectly correct, assuming there is some degree of risk of splashing 'hazardous substances' onto exposed skin. If there isn't, and there is no other pressing OHS reason to keep legs covered I see absolutely no reason why shorts shouldn't be worn - and the original post states that the principal client has objected 'for dress code reasons' - nothing to do with H&S. I like Lorraine's response. Particularly since I am posting this from Australia where there would be a national outcry if wearing shorts was prohibited without a very good and clearly communicated reason. Perhaps a colleague from the Royal Mail could shed some light, as Postal Delivery workers wear shorts during the summer.
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Posted By Frank Hallett
At least this one wasn't artificially dressed up [sorry - not!] as an H&S issue.
Ultimately, it really does come down to the client enforcing their perception of acceptable dress-codes. Incidentally, does the client company insist that all females have their legs covered to the ankle as well? If not, a plain [and indefensible] case of sexual discrimination!!
I also wish to address an earlier observation about the potential protection afforded by leg-coverings. There will be no actual protection afforded and in cases of contact with many substances the retention of substances in close contact with the skin for longer periods could well exacerbate the consequences of exposure - and that includes sweat!
Sensible risk assessment and then sensible dialogue with the client is really the way to go. Be prepared for increased staff turn-over if you go with the client without involving your workforce in the most meaningful way!
What about the Kilt then?
Frank Hallett
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Posted By Kinnikin
On wearing long pants and the protection it provides.
Consider working with detergents which are designed to remove oils etc.
Being on skin for long durations can cause dermatitic symptoms as it strips the skin of natural oils so therefore must be washed of if splashed on to skin. Lower arms and hands are easier to wash off than legs (in a normal work setting).
Long pants will provide some protection from such a hazard.
As always it comes down to risk assessment. Of course every day long pants would not protect you against conc HCL!! But to say it will afford no protection at all is folly!
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Posted By Raj Singh RSO
Hi,
I believe that there must be more information given. I do agree that long pants provide some form of protection when it comes to splashs of hot/cold liquids, contact with hot/cold objects or contact with mild chemicals.
I also agree that most people would find it abit difficult to wash off substances from the legs, compared to the the hands.
Yet, having said this, arms should also be protected as they might also come into contact with the above mentioned.
So I guess the writer needs to look at the hazards first.
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