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#1 Posted : 06 September 2005 11:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By Nigel Hammond A line manager has forwarded me a copy of a memo from another company. The memo is warning staff not to re-use plastic water bottles. (e.g. Vittel, Evian etc) The line manager has suggested that I send a similar warning out in our own organisation. However, I am not convinced and would be interested in your thoughts. The memo says that the plastic, polyethylene terephthalate (PET) used in these bottles contains a potentially carcinogenic element (called diethylhydroxylamine, DEHA). It advises that the bottles are safe for one use only - that repeated washing can break down the plastic. I recal seeing this advice on an internet newsletter a few months ago. 1. Does anyone know if this advice is true or is it just scare mongering from the mineral water companies to encourage people to keep buying new bottled water? 2. Would the alternatives be worse - e.g. re-usable plastic bottles. These are usually more soft - so I wonder if they contain more nasty plasticizers? My son takes a insulated metal water bottle to school. Water stored in it for a long time starts to taste metalic - so what could this be? 3. Why would the bottle be safe on the first use and not on subsequent uses?
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#2 Posted : 06 September 2005 12:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By Rob The Health Protection Agency North West sent out a Bulletin in December 2003 regarding this issue following an internal e mail from someone who read an article on the internet. Their response was as follows: 'The internet information concerned the common practice of re-using plastic water bottles, in particular mineral water bottles. The internet information stated that repeated use, washing and rinsing of such bottles causes the plastic (a plastic they called polythene terephthalate or 'PET') to break down. It was stated that PET contained a potentially carcinogenic substance called di-ethylhydroxylamine or DEHA and this 'leached out' into the refilled contents. It stated that these bottles were really only single use but if kept and reused should only be kept for a maximum of one week. The GMHPU duty officer who took the enquiry sought expert advice from the Chemical Hazards and Poisons Division and the Food Standards Agency. The Food Standards Agency identified that DEHA was not an abbreviation for di-ethylhydroxylamine but for a legally permitted EU approved plasticier called di-(2 ethylhexyl)adipate - so the internet information was factually incorrect. In addition, they advised that generally food bottles and containers are designed and tested to demonstrate that they can be safely used for one use - the assumption being that they will be discarded when empty. However, their opinion was that as long as the condition of the plastic had not deteriorated and it could be cleaned effectively, it would be safe to reuse.
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#3 Posted : 07 September 2005 06:35:00(UTC)
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Posted By Martin Taylor this is a very relevant topic to myself as just yesterday our H and S committee discussed bottled water which raised some other questions:- 1) policy with regards to water bottles on the shop floor - risk wrt electrical equipment and risk of contamination to the drinking parts of the bottle 2) opportunity to refill large (10L) bottles of spring water with filtered tap water. (major cost saving) What do other people have as policy for shop floor use of bottled water? and does anybody know of a safe and approved method for doing this - DOES this PET scare apply again? thanks Martin
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#4 Posted : 07 September 2005 07:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter Martin The big bottles don't look like PET to me though I stand to be corrected. Paul
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#5 Posted : 07 September 2005 14:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stephen J W Clegg. Does this help? http://www.hoax-slayer.c...stic-bottles-cancer.html Steve.
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#6 Posted : 07 September 2005 16:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By Nigel Hammond Thanks for clearing this up. This forum and the people who use it are fantastic. I can sleep at night now without sending a memo to all staff warning them about deadly bottles!
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#7 Posted : 07 September 2005 16:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Eric PD you'd look a right plonker if you did, talk about giving H&S a bad name! Worse case scenario , someone dies from plastic bottle disease, how the heck can they prove its work related?? lets be real here please.
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