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#1 Posted : 22 September 2005 13:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By john douglas i have been told that because my warehouse roller doors are opened by a chain operated manually that they now require inspection and cetification under the LOLER regs. Can anybody clarify this for me? thanks
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#2 Posted : 22 September 2005 13:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By ITK LOLER ie "Lifting" equipment, the doors are not lifting equipment therefore LOLER does not apply.
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#3 Posted : 22 September 2005 14:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By gham Spot on the doors are not lifting equipment, they are doors and dont need inspected. Now concider the mechnisim used to lift the doors Doors= Load LORER Regs 2(1) "lifting Equipment" means work equipment for lifting or lowering loads and including its attachements used for anchoring, fixing or supporting it Would lifing mechnisim not come under LOLER?
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#4 Posted : 22 September 2005 17:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Pope The expert to talk to is at the Door & Shutter Manufacturers Association.
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#5 Posted : 22 September 2005 18:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By Frank Hallett Well posted gham [should that be graham?] succinct and to the point; and accurate! And, for those who are chuckling gleefully 'cos their doors aren't manual operation - it applies to you as well. Frank Hallett
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#6 Posted : 22 September 2005 23:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Rob Yuill Just to throw a spanner in the works, so to speak. Para 28 of the Local Authority Circular: LAC 90/4, Subject: Work equipment states: Machinery, whose primary function is not that of raising or lowering but which includes some integral part performing a lifting function, eg the boom of a mobile concreting pump or a tipper lorry which raises its body to discharge the load, should not be regarded as lifting equipment. This exclusion extends to chains, ropes and lifting tackle forming an integral part of the plant, for example counterbalanced furnace doors or dock gates. Machinery which lifts itself, eg roller shutter doors, is also not considered to be lifting equipment. (The last sentence I believe clarifies the situation.)
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#7 Posted : 23 September 2005 09:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis But they still need inspecting in the same manner because they are work equipment. Anyone who has seen the consequences of a catastrophic failure of these at the wrong moment will know the damge which can be caused. Bob
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#8 Posted : 27 September 2005 13:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By gham With regards to the LAC 90/4 also states in paragraphs 13 13 Examples of lifting equipment are given in ACoP L113, paras 28 and 29. The use in this circular of the term 'traditional' lifting equipment refers to that equipment described in L113 para 28 as being covered by earlier legislation. ACoP L113 Paragraph 28 and 29 28 The regulations are aimed primarily at equipment covered by previous lifting legislation, ie cranes, lifts and hoists, and components including chains, ropes, slings, hooks, shackles and eyebolts. However, LOLER now applies in whichever industry this range of equipment is used in including those, such as agriculture, which previously were not covered by specific regulations. 29 LOLER also applies to a range of other lifting equipment which presents risks which are similar to those associated with the ‘traditional’ equipment. Which is contrary to Paragraph 28 of the LAC 90/4, in particluar when you consider the lists of 'Lifting Equipment' noted in Para 28 and 29 of L113 G' As mentioned above inspect it as part of PUWER any way
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#9 Posted : 27 September 2005 13:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By gham While im still on me horsie, Doors which lift themselves are not manualy operated! G Thats me done now!
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