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Posted By Starbuck
Hi all,
I have just found out that we have certain operations where 1 person is expected to shift boxes weighing up to 560kg (one large base box weighing 380kg and a box on top weighing 180kg). These boxes have to be delivered to people's homes, so it could be on all sorts of terrain from gravel to uneven grass or on a slight slope. It is currently done by one person using the most basic of sack barrows, something I see as completely unacceptable. I'm trying to find some suitable equipment for them to unload these boxes from vehicles with and then transport to someone's front door. It needs to be fairly compact, the rough terrain pallet trucks I've seen are huge and there is little chance the company will make space for them in the back of a vehicle. I was thinking of trying to source a high reach scissor lift pallet truck with pheumatic tyres so that the top box could be lifted off and moved first and then back to get the second box, all with the same bit of kit.
Anyone come across anything like this that was worth purchasing or has anyone any other good ideas please. I'm trying to avoid going down the road of a driver's mate due to cost and thus potentially losing the contract which is currently a close run thing.
Many thanks in anticipation.
Zoe
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Posted By Ron Hunter
Hi Zoe,
Perhaps you could provide a bit more detail as to what is in the boxes?
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Posted By Terry Price
This seems a bit over the top!
What does the existing RA say if this is not a new operation?
I could suggest a hovercraft with a robust skirt to prevent path gravel, etc from flying up. Otherwise, you could try hiring a helicopter.
Seriously, the boxes seem far too heavy for delivery to peoples' homes. can't the equipment be broken down into manageable pieces?
Terry
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Posted By Starbuck
Okay here's the deal; the 380kg bottom box is a tool box unit, the top box of 180kg are the draws and other components. We do not make or pack these boxes and have no say it either. We purely provide the transport. They go to private addresses of people who sell these tool boxes on to businesses etc; the tool boxes are often put in people's garages, but in some rare cases the house.
The obvious solution to me is to break down the units further to make more lighter boxes, however the implications of this are increase in production time, packing time, loading and unloading times, also potentially an increase in storage space. This may all be fine except the company we're providing transport for have another quote from another company which is only slightly more than ours; if we implement the 'ideal' changes the costs of our contract will shoot up and we stand a good chance of losing the contract altogether, then I won't have to worry about manual handling for these guys as they won't have jobs unless they're lucky enough to be transferred elsewhere.
Tough one and I'm having trouble finding a sack barrow that will a capacity of 380kg or a pallet truck with rough terrain capabilities that isn't the size of a small country.
It's a pretty poor situation really and I can't believe we don't have more injuries there than we do, that said we have a fair few.
Anymore replies would be gratefully recieved. Thanks.
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
Talk to HSS and similar they have a powered sack barrow called the Powermate - I have used modified one's to remove ducted warm air heater units, approx 600kg, which were full of amosite from domestic premises.
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Posted By Ron Hunter
Only sensible suggestion I can make is to use a vehicle mounted forklift (e.g. Moffat Mounty).You may have seen these tucked under the back of LGVs on your travels.Of course the expense of all of that means the other guy wins the contract - then again maybe he already has suitable vehicles & plant on his fleet. You don't. Sorry
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Posted By Andrew Beveridge
Try Stanley Handling on 01582 767711; very helpful folk.
They supplied me with powered stairclimbing sack barrows to move 400kg dead weights, and let me trial them for a week first!
They also came up with a good usable solution to unloading 400kg items from a flatbed transit and stacking them.
No affiliation, just a satisfied customer.
Hope this helps.
Regards
Andy
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Posted By Paul Adams
A tool box that weighs in at 560Kg. Wow that is some serious tool box. How big are these and how many are transported in a van at once?
Our "trasnit" type vans have a capacity of 1.5 tons and would therefore be overloaded with 3 units plus sack truck plus driver. I can't see how one person can possibly safely transfer this kind of weight from a van to a sack barrow. Is this person a champion weight lifter?
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Posted By Ron Hunter
the thought occurs that the gross weights being discussed probably exceed the designed floor loading on some modern timber frame houses (always assuming you get this granite and lead accessorised toolbox over the threshold!!).
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Posted By Starbuck
Thanks for replies. We use a 17.5 tonne rigid to transport the boxes. Hadn't thought about floorboards at people's home; I was more concerned with how they were going to move it, but hey one hurdle at a time, besides I'm not convinced how responsible we the middle men are for that.
I'm off back to that site today to see how a customised winchmaster would work for us. Hmmm.
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