Posted By MarkSMark What does Europe have to do with Safety Law? I thought NEBOSH made all the UK safety law?

Posted By Frank Hallett Bring back the guillotine [for the cutting of inconvenient [non-French] red tape and the bonfire of the vanities for all politicians who don't even know what any of the H, S, F or E legislation was, is or supposed to do. Yeah, yeah, I know Brussels isn't French but it didn't read so well. Frank Hallett

Posted By Mark Talbot Yeah, but that's only half right because they move every six months, don't they (or has that truly scandelous waste of my money been stopped yet - I daren't look). Obviously I mean the people, not Stasbourg.

Posted By Frank Hallett Hi Nikki "The Law is an ass" sounds great but means nothing as it ignores the fact that people [individuals and society] make the law. So, it's not the H&S [or whatever] law that is stupid - it's those who create it in such a way that there are a too great a variety of ways in which it can [mis]interpreted [sorry - that's the legal profession losing money if we fix that isn't it]. Having got my pointy stick gratuitously into two bunch of recipients in one go, I now wish to point out that another bunch of people who should be closely scrutinised are those that make apparently ridiculous, [absurd, incompetent or any other epithet indicating that their decisions are considered aberrant] decisions. The last group that I feel should come in for as close a scrutiny are "the media". Not only because [this spell scheck actually works!] there is a tendency to report things in a manner that is calculated to get the maximum immediate effect, but because on occassion they actually seem to get it right. Frank Hallett

Posted By Frank Hallett OK David [clever clogs!] Why should we have to trek to them all the time? Is it indicative of the UK view of the EU [originally the not so Common unless you were French or German & heavily subsidised Market"] that there isn't a proportion of meetings at a similarly unifying point such as Calais or the Scilly Isles? Now that there are 25 potential hosts and the Presidency moves on a 6 month period; why not abolish all of the very expensive empire of bureaucracy and simply find space in each county legislature like having the relatives coming to visit? They can sleep on the couch until proven to be worth the bed. Frank Hallett