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Posted By Juliet Fennell
A member of staff has just been diagnosed as diabetic and has told me he has to be VERY careful with shoes and comfort. A PPE supplier told me this means he cant wear safety boots with metal in them and he needs a composite toecap. Has anyone else heard this before and if so any suggestions on the type of safety boots he needs - he will be on construction sites on and off.
Thanks Juliet
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Posted By gham
Best speak to a specialist. The composite may cause the same problem as steel if it doesn't fit right and places pressure on the foot. It may only be a case of trying a few pairs on till you find ones which are comfortable and don't place pressure on the foot which could cause blisters or brusing.
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Posted By John Watson
Interesting post. I have spoken to a mate of mine, long term type 1 diabetic (20 years), long term Safety footwear wearer. He agrees the
importance to him of making sure his circulation is not impeded by any footwear, ie get a pair that fit well. He is unaware of any issues with steel in the shoe. My guess is your footwear supplier is trying it on to get you to buy dearer shoes! I would ask him for his research evidence.
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Posted By Fred Pratley
I see 2 possibilities in this.
One is your employee is trying to get better than the bog standard footwear that you supply to every one else and this (potentially) could open a real can of worms for you.
Another is that your employee has been diagnosed and has been frightened by the possible consequences of disregarding or neglecting this condition.
I am very familiar with the potential effects of this condition, having known 2 people who died as a result. One from neglecting the advice given, to the point where one limb was amputated, and the other had a very unstable condition and simply fell into a coma despite his own attention to detail and friends and colleagues watching for tell tale signs at work.
I suggest you attempt to learn as much as you can about the type of diabetes, how control is to be achieved (diet/pills/injection) etc, so that you have a clear understanding of this persons condition. If the diagnosis has only just been made, this information will not be available yet, so you should keep track of how things progress.
I have at least 2 "declared" diabetics (one on injections for many years) and probably several others I am not aware at work. Safety shoes are the norm here, and provided they are a good fit the majority of standard wear should be more than sufficient, so I have not needed to make any special provision. We do provide a range of styles previously agreed with the supplier so that costs are kept in control.
As for the composite vs steel toe cap - well to be a safety shoe the composite has to meet with required standards, so as far as the foot is concerned, it will be just a strong and as hard as anything else or it can't be a safety shoe!
Trust this helps
Fred
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Posted By Emma Forbes
We have one chap who is diabetic and he recently asked for something similar. As with all members of staff who have declared medical reasons not to wear the standard safety boot (athlete's foot also being one!), we requested a doctors letter stating the reasons and to make recommendations.
I wouldn't be swayed by a PPE supplier to buy more expensive boots than what's needed - they only recommend them for one reason, and it's not in the interest of health - perhaps I'm getting cynical in my old age.
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Posted By Sarah O'Brien
Hi juliet
Not sure about the diabetic part, but you can now get a kevlar safety shoe (they use them at Heathrow) they are very light and only cost £15.00 (approx) if needed I can get the supplier details if you wish.
Sarah
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Posted By Juliet Fennell
Thanks for all your help. Have passed on the info to my colleague. He is most grateful to you all - as this is all new to him he appreciates any advice.
Juliet
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Posted By Sue Manning
Have read the feedback with interest and want to post a response (wishing that I had read this discussion point earlier). We have had a similar instance in our warehouse and agreed to have a pair of 'industrial shoes to diabetic specification' made for our employee - and we have just received an invoice for over £800 (for which we have requested a cost breakdown). Has anyone else had a similar experience? Is this a typical cost? Many thanks, Sue Manning
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Posted By David P. Johnson
In a word, it's extortionate.
I believe Hotter Shoes in Skelmersdale (Lancs) still make a suitable safety boot - they are around £80 if I remember correctly, but all their shoes are expensive (supporting British Industry and all that ;-) )
It may be worth referring the individual to a Podiatrist, they charge around £15 for the consultation, and they can tell you exactly what is appropriate. They usually know of good (cheap and reliable) suppliers, too.
DJ
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