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#1 Posted : 18 October 2005 14:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jane Watts I am aware of the current changes from the Fire Precautions Act to the Regulatory Reform Order, however, am unaware where such information about distances to exit ways etc will sit? I know the building regs, section F, are being re-visted, are they likely to sit in there does anyone know? Thanks in advance
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#2 Posted : 18 October 2005 14:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By joe black Part F is ventilation so I don't think that this will be covered. Am also wondering, so thanks! Joe
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#3 Posted : 18 October 2005 15:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jane Watts ah right, that probably is the wrong part then! I was told section F, haven't checked it myself!
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#4 Posted : 18 October 2005 15:20:00(UTC)
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Posted By Darren Eastham Although reg reform repeals most legislation, prescriptive advice still stands in Approved Doc B or in CIBSE Guide E. not being a showoff. Darren
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#5 Posted : 18 October 2005 15:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jane Watts which translates into? sorry, unaware of what these documents are
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#6 Posted : 18 October 2005 16:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By Darren Eastham sorry about assuming the docs in question are Building reg docs they will tell you that travel distances are 18m where there is one fire exit and 35m where there are more than one fire exit. If this is unachievable engineered options are acceptable for your risk assessment as opposed to fire certificate which becomes non effective on expirey date. Hope this helps Darren
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#7 Posted : 18 October 2005 16:18:00(UTC)
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Posted By J Knight Hi Jane, CIBSE is Chartered Institute of Building Services Engineers, the approved documents are guidance to the building regs. If you happen to work in the health or social care sector you also need to know that the NHS Firecode is changing and this is rather more stringent in some of its provisions than building regs; outside the NHS Firecode is best practice guidance, John
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#8 Posted : 18 October 2005 16:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By Phillip Jane, Doc B can be downloaded form the internet - I will forward you a copy if you want. A more user friendly guide is "fire safety an employer's guide" HSE & ODPM websites offer fire advice. With the new Reform Order, the guidance notes still stand but the responsible person must do the risk assessment (as opposesd to the fire services issuing certificates. Hope this helps
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#9 Posted : 18 October 2005 17:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Sean Fraser Chubb had a series of fire seminars relating to the changes in Scotland and this is all accessible on the net at: http://www.chubb.co.uk/c...tId/1442/navId/000000008 Does refer to the changes in England and without getting too hung up on the specific references, the changes are essentially complimentary. Main point is the transfer of responsibility solely onto the owner/occupier in terms of adequate assessment and associated action and dropping the requirement for a Fire Certificate from the local fire and rescue service. There are heaps of British Standards on the subject, all of which you will NOT be required to have and to hold just to do your assessment. If you have a standard office and/or workshop area, if you can see the exits or are close to them should the alarm sound then you will be OK. Only if you have a complex arrangement in place (i.e. there are secured doors to pass through that need unlocked) are you going to have to go into it in more depth. Doesn't answer the question directly but thought it might come in useful.
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#10 Posted : 18 October 2005 21:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jay Joshi There is some information on seminars--access the link below http://www.odpm.gov.uk/s...ge/odpm_fire_039587.hcsp Also, the ODPM website--link below informs that gudies will be published. Why dont you contact the IOSH fire specialist group? http://www.odpm.gov.uk/s...ge/odpm_fire_039586.hcsp Further help and information A series of guides will be produced in order to assist those preparing fire risk assessments; these will give detailed information on risk assessments and other issues and will be available on this web site as soon as they become available. A small entry-level guide is also being produced. This will be available on this site, as well as on the Small Business Service web site at the Business Link web site (see below). The Business Link web site also contains guidance on current fire safety legislation.
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