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#1 Posted : 24 October 2005 10:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By Richard Chalkley
Here's one for a Monday morning,

A colleague was in a well known high street chain at the weekend and used the lift. Her 3 year old, for a change, was not in her buggy and put her hand against the door to open it as it slid back. Her hand became trapped between the sliding halves of the door.

The parents dealt well with the situation, released the hand and did the correct first aid.

Question: What are the H&S Implications?

Richard.
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#2 Posted : 24 October 2005 12:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Pat Burns MIOSH, RSP - SpDipEM - MIQA
Richard

You don't say whether or not any report was passed to the duty store manager. If events like this are not passed on then out with the maintenance checks how else are they going to find out about them to take investigate and take appropriate action. Please supply more detail?
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#3 Posted : 24 October 2005 12:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Richard Chalkley
Pat,

The incident was attended by a trained first aider from the store. The parent is also a trained first aider at work and as such passed her (and the childs) details on to the first aider for the report.

Richard.
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#4 Posted : 24 October 2005 13:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Nikki
Sorry, I don't think that you will like my response but if a child puts it's hand on a sliding lift door as it opens then it's hand will possibly become trapped. There has to be an element of personal responsilibilty in the world. In this case parental responsibility.
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#5 Posted : 24 October 2005 14:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Richard Chalkley
All,

Thanks for the responses both on and off line. I personally agree that this really is a supervision issue and there is little the store could have done to prevent this.

This is more or less what I told my colleague and as she is of the level headed variety her main concern, after her child, was to make sure that the Store Manager knew so that they could do the relevant checks etc. She asked me just in case there were other issues...

Thanks as ever for the help.

Richard.
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#6 Posted : 24 October 2005 17:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mark Talbot
Little puzzled ... you ask what the H&S implications are. Well, the implications to me include that other children are going to do the same, and suffer the same injury - it is very foreseeable.

Whether there is a practicable response is another matter.

Whether there is any negligence is yet another matter - and only a comparison of that lift door to other lift doors would tell you if there was an obvious defect (such as larger than normal gap, absence of brushes - if they should have been fitted, damage to doors, dirty doors that precluded the normal slip of skin rather than trap of skin).

No defect, door the same as the rest? Probably no further action.

I hope the store manager has satisfied themself that there is nothing reasonable to be done to prevent the next one.
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