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#1 Posted : 27 October 2005 15:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By ElaineH
Hi, I work in healthcare.
Can anyone advise if there is such a thing as
best pratice ratio for h&s staff to employee
complement please?At the moment we have 1.5 h&s looking after 550 staff.

Kind Regards
Elaine
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#2 Posted : 27 October 2005 17:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By Daniel Stonehouse
This subject has been raised before on this forum. there seems to be no hard and fast figures. It would depend on the competency of the people, the workplace and staff involved, the amount of time and money invested into Health and Safety on the site in question. In a relatively low risk environment one very competent person could look after the H ans S of thousands, whereas in another firm it would need more. My employer has three full time Health, Safety and Environmental staff plus a number of competent, proffessional area leaders who are H and S trained, yet we only have 200 employees.
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#3 Posted : 27 October 2005 17:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman
Elaine,

my rule of thumb (as a CONSULTANT !!!) (note the caps) is one professionally competent HS person/manager for 500 employees. Level of competence will vary according to the industry, number/dispersion of sites and level of risk. Over 500 and I tend to add technically competent people rather than HS manager level.

For large sites it can get quite complicated. If you want to give more details then I could suggest how I would handle it. On this forum or private e-mail if you like.

Merv
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#4 Posted : 27 October 2005 18:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By Raymond Rapp
Elaine

As the previous respondents have suggested there is probably no specific guidance on the issue, partly because it would depend on the hazardous nature of the work activies and the ability of those supervising it. That said, I think the ratio would be far less than the 500-1 suggested earlier, with the exception being non-hazardous industries.

The TUC suggest as ratio of about 30/50-1 for TU health and safety representation, although I think very organisations adhere to it. However, in a high risk environment I would have thought a 100-1 ratio would be the ideal maximum.

Regards

Ray
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#5 Posted : 28 October 2005 07:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By ElaineH
Thanks all - appreciate it. EH
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#6 Posted : 31 October 2005 08:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By J Knight
Hi Elaine,

I also work in Healthcare (with a Retail arm!) and we have me for our approximately 1,800 Healthcare & Support function Imployees (23 or so workplaces) and I have a full time H&S Adviser for Retail (400 odd workplaces including a warehouse); it's not enough really but we just about manage,

John
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#7 Posted : 31 October 2005 14:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By steve williamson
Hi Elaine,

There is no ratio. You'll find it's very unusual for a trust of any description to have more than one safety adviser. I have just under 5k staff here plus PFI and University employees, but work with a whole range of other 'competent persons' for moving and handling, emergency planning, fire, infection etc. We all advise managers rather than manage for them. Ask what the system is elsewhere at your local IOSH Healthcare Group meeting.

Cheers,

Steve

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#8 Posted : 31 October 2005 15:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By stuart cross
Hey JK Don't forget the part-timers

SGC
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