Posted By fats van den raad Bob... don't forget the old gramatical trip hazard... AFFECT vs EFFECT.... I am the first to admit that my spelling and grammar is atroc....att.... very bad, and as you say, as long as the message can be understood, who cares.

Posted By Cr8r Well done Robert! As far as I'm concerned, I feel strongly that grammar, spelling and punctuation should be correct in publications and, for example on the television. It also reflects badly on the company if letters and other documents are badly laid out and have less than perfect spellings and grammar. However, when it comes to personal notes, aide memoirs and even risk assessments, I don't care how they spell things or even if they don't know the correct name of something. The key to it all is COMMUNICATION. Is it clear to the reader what the author meant? If yes, then it matters not what the spelling is like. If there can be any confusion at all, then this is a different matter and needs attention. Usually, I have found that there is no confusion. There is a time and a place when things really should be perfect, and a time and a place where it isn't crucial. I would rather find a risk assessment with spelling errors than find that they hadn't done one because they didn't get O level English and haven't the confidence to spell. PS - I did get O level English, so if there are any errors in the posting, I must have done it on purpose just to test you all (so don't bother pointing them out). Alternatively, it could be that it is some time since I sat the exam and I may well have forgotten it all by now. A dearly beloved colleague of mine once took it upon himself to write some notes about his job to help others cover for when he went overseas for a while. English was not his forte, but his heart was obviously in the right place. His neatly typed papers were bound, the covers encapsulated, the title proudly proclaimed: "IDOT GUIDE". This was about eight years ago and he still gets reminded about it to this day. One example of perhaps where good spelling (or at least proof reading) is pretty essential!

Posted By Andy Petrie Bopb, couple of points. What is the british standard, there aqre lots of them and I am sure banksman or signaller are not recognised in the majority. Secondly, working in a railway environment a signaller has a specific job, controlling the signals, he's not the guy that helps reverse trains/trucks. That's a banksman.

Posted By Ken Taylor If I asked for a signaller on a construction site I'd probably get a rude response. Banksmen direct delivery vehicles and heavy plant in difficult areas. It's a communication thing.

Posted By Alan Hoskins As I have recently posted to the 'other' earlier thread, it doesn't take much to proof read the preview before posting it to the Forum. We should at least be correcting any obvious errors at that point. Alan

Posted By Robert K Lewis Well spotted Philip but everyone completely understood what it was about!:-)

Posted By Philip Roberts Robert, My posting was tongue in cheek and I do have the Google spellcheck to help me. I am generally a poor speller and agree, if you can understand it why moan ? best regards Phil

Posted By PaulA Robert.. I cdnuolt blveiee that I cloud aulaclty uesdnatnrt waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnind. Aoccdrnig to a rsheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmaotnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer bein the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotle mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcusaea the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh? yaeh and I awlyas thought slpeling was ipmorantt.. The faster you read it the easier it is! Was sent and thought of the critics on this forum.... Kind Regards All.. PaulA

Posted By Robert K Lewis Ah, the useful mathematical information we all like to use like Cosh, Sinh and Tanh - I can still, with a bit of scratching of the grey cells, differentiate the odd vector or two and even use a cylindrical slide rule. What does one do without them nowadays. It certainly takes me back to the days of farthing blackjacks. Bob

Posted By Martin Mulholland I Cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt!

Posted By alex mccreadie BS7121 PARTS 1,2,4,5 All state Slinger / Signaller and are as stated previously concerned with cranes and lifting. Even though it is wrong most people in the construction crane industry tend to call them Banksmen. And yes it was nice to see someone put the Grammer and Spelling thing in a proper context.

Posted By J Knight I can spell OK, but can't tpye very well! (numerous fingers and reasonably quickly but can't quite manage to hit all the right keys all the time:)). And what if our IT people won't give us the privileges we need to install the Google toolbar? Can't we have some sort of smell chucker on this forum? John