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Posted By MancMan
Can anyone out there help - What is the minimum temp at work ??? I thought it was 17C but i have been told now that therew is no minumim just reasonable ?????
and does an organisation HAVE to provide thermometers in the workplace if so how many ??
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Posted By J Knight
Guidance to the workplace regs suggests a minimum of 16 degrees; yes, that's right, suggests. What is needed is an assessment of temperature needed based on the nature of the work being carried out; sedentary office workers are likely to need a higher temperature than busy plasterers, for example. You should also take any particularly vulnerable individuals into account. You don't need a thermometer as the actual temperature isn't really relevant; what;s important is that people should feel conmfortable, though having a thermometer might help to win an argument and they only cost a couple of quid, having said that I don't think I've ever worked anywhere with thermometers except for the ones we use to record bath temps. There are no limits on outdoor workplaces beyond the common-law requirement not to allow your employees to die of hypothermia ;-)
John
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Posted By lewes
The Workplace (Health, Safety and Welfare) Regulations 1992 says:
'For workplaces where the activity is sedentary (inactive) for example offices, the temperature should normally be at least 16°C. If work involves physical effort it should be at least 13°C (unless other laws require lower temperatures).'
As far as I know its still applicable
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Posted By Jonathan Breeze
Just to clarify what John & Lewes have said, the figure of 16 degC is in para 43 of the ACoP appended to the Workplace Regs rather than in the regs themselves.
While this figure is not an absolute, it is still approved guidance and you'd need to have a very good case for letting it drop below this.
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Posted By J Knight
Hi Lewes,
As I say, that's guidance, the assessment should always be about comfort rather than numbers,
John
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Posted By MancMan
Thanks for all that - But what about the providing thermometers around the workplace ???
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Posted By lewes
Hi John
As soon as I had read your reply I realised I had missed the missing all important words of 'Guidance'.
Thanks for the nudge :o)
Cheers
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Posted By J Knight
Well Lewes, as Jon points out it's the ACOP, so it has more weight than I had indicated and forgive my egginess, I'm trying to avoid doing organograms at the moment. All I mean, in case my point is a tad obscure, is that 16 may be the minimum in the ACOP, but if people are too cold at 16 it's not going to do much good citing the ACOP as the intention really is about comfort, and we might well have to do more than the minimum to comply. Of course with the Offices Shops n Railway premises regime it was 18 and stop whingeing, nowadays whingeing is allowed,
John
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Posted By Cathy Ricketts
Thermometers - guidance suggests these should be available at a convenient distance from every part of the work place to persons at work to enable temperatures to be measured throughout the workplace, but need not be provided in each workroom. We supply them and people only look at them when they are starting to freeze or to overheat most of the time they are ignored but do at least give an indication of the temperature and whether this may be having an effect on well being - for the few £ that they costs its worth having them
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Posted By Debbie S
On the local news last week (in the Suffolk area I believe) a small pet food shop (operating from a very old building with no heating whatsoever)was fined £1,000 by the HSE as the shop owner failed to get the minimum suggested temperature of 16 degrees C in his shop.
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Posted By Brian Hagyard
Sorry to be picky folks but regulation 3(3) of Workplace (Health, Safety and Welfare) Regulations 1992 state “A sufficient number of thermometers shall be provided to enable persons at work to determine the temperature in any workplace inside a building”. So clearly thermometers do have to be provided the question is how many? That’s where the ACOP gets vague.
Brian.
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Posted By ITK
Pet shops are enforced by LA not HSE and yes one was prosecuted recently for workplace temperatures.
Thermometers are a legal requirment of th Wokplace (Health Safety and Welfare) Regulations 1992, Regulation 7(3)
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Posted By Jonathan Breeze
So in summary, Go to Poundland and get a few thermometers with petty cash and install them around the workplace. Set the office thermostat to a comfortable level (but not lower than 16 degC unless you have a very good reason such as food preparation) and you're sorted!
Remember, a level of 13 degC is technically acceptable if the work involves physical activity, but 'comfortable' is the watchword in both cases.
He, if only it was this easy in the summer months!
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Posted By Brian Hagyard
No one spotted my deliberate mistake or are you just too nice to mention it?
Of course I meant regulation 7(3) not 3(3) which is of course application to aircraft, locomotives or Rollins stock must be the cold/heat getting to me.
Brian
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Posted By Jonathan Breeze
Brian,
Apparently priggish pedants are sooo last season, so I let it pass.
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Posted By Brian Hagyard
Jonathan.
Thank you for your indulgence. Remembered to spell check my posting forgot to read it as well!
Brian.
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