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Posted By Jonathan Sandler
I started a thread some time ago, re should IOSH have an enforcement specialist section, the answers came back and said yes.
OK, a lot more leg work before this happens. Now this brings me to another question, all of us who come on here are safety persons, regardless of industry, some are chartered some are not, some are just starting off and some are keeping going couse they have not won the lottery.
Why then, if a chartered person wants to get into enforcement, is the door locked, well not locked just shut.
Accepted further training is required, re section 18-20 powers, PACE, we can do that, why cann't we get in and demonstrate our expierance.
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Posted By Bill Fisher
Jonathan
There will be many in agreement with you on this because the opportunity to get into a position and demonstrate ability affects every post - not just enforcement - we see advertised.
So rather asking the question in general terms perhaps it needs to be focussed on enforcement bodies and employers to give their responses. They could also perhaps give advice on how to get through the "stockade".
Regards
Bill
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Posted By IT
Sorry for butting in on this one also.
When I applied to the Inspectorate they were looking for Industry knowledge, qualifications, expertise in certain areas and behavioral issues.
After the lengthy recruitment process which lasted 2 months ,I was advised that I was successful and started internal training on a variety of legislation(including PACE) and organisational views ,before being permitted to take control of my little world of 11 inspectors, it was a great learning experience ,given the qualifications of some posters here ,it would and could only benefit the enforcement and industrial/commercial sectors to have professionals in addition to graduates in enforcement.
Just my 2 pence worth
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Posted By Jonathan Sandler
Dear IT
Thanks for your 2p thats what this site is about.
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Posted By SK
1) Experience and qualifications are not the only requirement as they are looking for certain personality types. Too much experience in one industry can be a bad thing as you can become too industry sympathetic.
2) IT, you can't be talking about the HSE because the entry process takes longer than that, the training is more extensive than that and you don't just enter and find yourself in charge of other inspectors. You start at the bottom.
3) You're not missing anything by not being an enforcer. In fact I would go so far as to say you're better off out of it.
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Posted By IT
SK,
Well identified, it was Worksafe Victoria (Australia) HSE equivalent (seems like I get to see my old legislation being reborn so to speak)
2. Internal training went on for 6 months, plus CPD and external Police training on PACE.
3. Worksafe moved away from traditional promotions based on years of service and brought experience and industry knowledge in.
4. AGREE you are better out than in
They do look for Behavior and personality in all roles.
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Posted By Jonathan Sandler
Dear SK and IT
Thanks for your comments maybe you would like to comment on my next thread, 'Expanding upon a thread' see what you think.
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Posted By ITK
I work in Enforcement and can honestly say experience and knowledge were not a hinderence to getting the job, quite the opposite.
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