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#1 Posted : 02 December 2005 09:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By Sally
My 'local' has just reopened after a refurbishment. The low windowsills, ie about 2 feet high, have a row of lit candles in wine bottles along them.

I've noticed the use of tealights, candles etc becoming more popular in this type of venue. Is there guidance on this type of use and how would it be viewed in a Fire Risk Assessment?
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#2 Posted : 02 December 2005 10:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By TBC
See thread 'Tea Lights in Public'
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#3 Posted : 02 December 2005 19:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By Raymond Rapp
Without wishing to be seen as a 'party pooper' I would think that lit candles in a pub environment are a serious fire hazard. Although not related, a friend of mine was burnt when a Sambuca was spilt on her tights. Her boyfriend was the culprit, who was a fire station officer. Despite his efforts she suffered quite serious burns. I should know because I was sitting next to her.

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#4 Posted : 03 December 2005 18:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken Taylor
It would be an item for fire risk assesment - which will need to also take the nature of the environment into account as well as the stability of the holders. Pubs (and individual areas of pubs) vary in terms of use and potential risk factors. What is reasonable for candle-lit suppers in smart dining rooms may be far from safe in crowded, busy drinking areas!
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#5 Posted : 04 December 2005 02:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By John McFeely
I would hazard a guess and say that the chances are the Risk Assessment for this activity has not been covered and probably would be considered as another killjoy safety exercise. However revisiting the terms and conditions of the building insurance, employers and public liability insurances might just kill the joy of having a nice setting for Christmas. It is nice to know that the insurance professionals are considered worse than safety professionals. I wonder who would be the most boring? Any accountants out there???
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#6 Posted : 05 December 2005 15:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mark Bishop
The following government statistics (for dwellings) illustrate the significant hazard posed by candles.

In 2002 there was a rise in the number of deaths in candle fires, up to 19 from 16 in 2001. As a consequence, the death rate increased from eight per 1,000 fires in 2001, to ten per 1,000 fires in 2002.

These are the latest statistics available on the ODPM webiste.
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#7 Posted : 06 December 2005 09:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By EE
Statistics again - very few injuries / deaths caused by how many candles used in UK last year - get some reality into your life !!!!

"You need to carryout a risk assessment" and I presume document this as proof of how professional you are. Where is common sense and reality come into this??

Kill-joys like us will spoil the world - not make it safer

Look at fire safety risks of having candles on birthday cakes - for small kids + health / hygiene risk of at least one person blowing them out and respiratory droplets containing thousands of germs landing on the cake surface + then being eaten by friends (young or old)

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#8 Posted : 06 December 2005 10:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mark Bishop
Behind every statisitc is a sad tale.

Candles will always be a significant hazard but sensible control measures will reduce the risk.

The following advice and control measures are taken from www.fireservice.co.uk.

Candles in the home are now getting a more and more popular way to add relaxation to our homes which has seen a large increase in the number of candle related incidents.

In the year 2000 alone, there were over 2,000 house fires due to candles. As a result, 10 people died and over 900 were injured.

As the sales of candles has gone up by 50% this year, this trend is unfortunately going to continue unless people are educated as to the dangers of candles and the damage they can cause.
Candles mark special occasions and create a special atmosphere. They also bring fire into your home. So treat them carefully. Here are some guidelines.

Always put candles on a heat resistant surface.
Be especially careful with night lights and tea lights, which get hot enough to melt plastic. TVs are not fire-resistant objects.
Put them in a proper holder.
Candles need to be held firmly upright by the holder so they won't fall over. The holder needs to be stable too, so it won't fall over either.
Position them away from curtains.
Don't put candles near curtains or other fabrics - or furniture. And keep them out of draughts.
Don't put them under shelves.
It's easy to forget that there's a lot of heat above a burning candle. If you put it under a shelf or other surface then it can burn the surface. Make sure there's at least three feet (one metre) between a candle and any surface above it.
Keep clothes and hair away.
If there's any chance you could lean across a candle and forget it's there, put it somewhere else. You don't want to set fire to your clothes or your hair.
Keep children and pets away.
Candles should be out of reach of children and pets.
Keep candles apart.
Leave at least four inches (10cm) between two burning candles.
Take care with votive or scented candles.
These kinds of candles turn to liquid to release their fragrance, so put them in a glass or metal holder.
Don't move them when they're burning.
Extinguish candles before moving them. Also, don't let anything fall into the hot wax like match sticks.
Don't leave them burning.
Extinguish candles before you leave a room. Never go to sleep with a candle still burning. And never leave a burning candle or oil burner in a child's bedroom.
Use a snuffer or a spoon to put them out. It's safer than blowing them, which can send sparks and hot wax flying.
Double-check they're out .
Candles that have been put out can go on smouldering and start a fire. Make sure they're completely out.
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#9 Posted : 06 December 2005 10:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By Heather Collins
EE - no-one mentioned candles on birthday cakes - this is about candles in what may be a busy crowded pub where presumably a candle in a bottle could easily be knocked over and cause a fire.

10 people dying in candle-related fires in one year isn't enough to take the risk seriously then? I have been asked if we would allow candles in our premises at halloween and I said no because they would be burning unattended for some of the time - does that make me a killjoy or just someone who recognises that risk can vary widely according to the circumstances?

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