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Posted By Alan Murphy
Just a question of the rights and wrongs of assisting a contractor on site by us as safety profesionals. Most companies will and do method statements and risk assessments for the work they are going to do, we must demand it. But what if they would sooner do it in conjunction with the site safety manager, some companies push that way for cheapness.
I would be interested for peoples opinion and experience of these sort of practices please.
Alan
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Posted By Jerry Lucey
Hi Alan,
I have been in a similar situation and found that contractors will often turn to you for guidance and there is nothing wrong with this. As a competent risk assessor I have never had a problem with guiding contractors with risk assessment/ method statement methodology but always ensure that the content of any such assessment/ method statement is the contractor's as they are the authority/ expert in their particular field.
Such guidance, especially if there are many contractors on the one site may help to introduce uniformity into the safety management system on the site, but the responsibility for identifying and managing risk must remain with the individual contractor.
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Posted By Alan Murphy
Thanks they are my sentiments exactly. The last one i did i got the electrician to counter sign it, i know its not ideal but it can have its benefits.
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Posted By Frank Hallett
Hi Alan.
Apart from the obvious benefits of actually embedding [how I dislike that word!] the way that you, as client/site controller want things to be done; it also helps to discharge the various duties laid on the controller of the work.
You're going to get pilloried if anything goes wrong anyway, you might as well influence it to a lesser problem when you can.
Frank Hallett
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Posted By Barry Cooper
Alan
I have always offered help and assistance to contractors working on site. Many have taken me up on my offer, and not only do I get improved H&S standards in their working practices and their documentation but it has helped tremendously to achieve an excellent rappport with them too.
We now have open discussions regarding H&S issues which all goes towards reducing accident on site.
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Posted By Mark Talbot
Alan,
It also give you a greater insight into what is being done, and how.
This is a win-win in my view.
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Posted By John Lewis
Hi guys
In my previous job I also ran the Facilities Department and found that in the early days, when standards were not so good, I often helped contractors identify problems and solutions before they had a chance to arise.
Fortunately I had the authority to bomb off site those who did not want to, or could not learn. After eight years when I left I was confident of all my regular contractors. The investment of time and effort in the early days paid dividends later. Most also adopted our Risk Assessment and Method Statement format too which resulted in much quicker reading and spotting of errors and misunderstanding.
Yes, get a good relationship with contractors working on your site. But a word of caution, you will still have to give them a "kicking" if they fail to do it right, so never get too cosy.
John
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