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#1 Posted : 20 December 2005 19:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kate Graham
I just have to share this - I did some good at work today. A member of staff contacted me to find out if it was true that there was a health and safety rule against putting Christmas decorations up in the office. I told them that for health and safety reasons I insisted on them putting decorations up.
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#2 Posted : 20 December 2005 20:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bill Fisher
Kate

A bit of a rebel, eh!

Best wishes
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#3 Posted : 20 December 2005 20:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Sandler CMIOSH
Dear Kate,
As you will be aware, the new WAH regs came out earlier in the year.
With that in mind, I can confirm and subject to conformation, under the Consultations and Information with Employees Regulations 2005, there is no mention of christmas decorations.
The fact that you showed sound H&S advice to an fellow employee shows that, without doubt, you, as a safety person, have entered into the true meaning of the season, unlike some persons you have to enforce the letter of the law!
I hope that this is only a temp lapes of true H&S clipboard person, that we all is (sorry mr morcombe & wise) and that after the festive holidays you will get back to being a fellow boring safety person, as what we all is!!!!!!!!
Please remember, next time, request that the line manager complete the Company Risk Assessment, in duplicate, signed and dated, this of course is in line with the Company Procedures.
Happy Christmas.
From a really boring Safety Person.
p.s.
Lets make 2006 even more of a paper society and red tape.
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#4 Posted : 21 December 2005 10:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By Renny Thomson
Risk Assessment for hanging Xmas decorations in the office:

Close and lock the door before standing on the chair!
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#5 Posted : 21 December 2005 11:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By David J Jones
Especially if it's a rotating chair!
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#6 Posted : 21 December 2005 11:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By gham
How many Safety folk does it take to put up Christmas decorations



None, if they got involved they would never let it happen.




We have even decorated our wee fan heaters under the desks with tinsil
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#7 Posted : 21 December 2005 11:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
I think we should all ask Prof. Lisa Jardine to do all the hanging as she is an expert on such things now - reference her Radio 4 piece.

With any luck and enough times of doing it, she will finally come to the statistical conclusion that she has fallen off the swivvely chair and lost her power of speech.

Still the panto genie does not work for us I suppose.

Other Chrismas wishes

HSE to find a sensible risk assessment answer.

Lessons only need to be learned once

The end of the phrase "It will only take a minute".

The government listens to the safety profession and not the enforcers.

Bob
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#8 Posted : 21 December 2005 11:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Heather Collins
Ooooh Christmas wishes - I like that idea. Please Santa bring me the following:

An end to the phrases "we were going to ask you later" and "but I read in the (insert name of tabloid rag here" that 'elf and safety says (insert ridiculous opinion here)"

A working crystal ball

An operational magic wand

A time machine so I can go back to last week or yesterday, which is when the situation always seems to have been worse ("you should have been here yesterday")

A soundproof room at work so I can go somewhere to scream without anyone knowing.

The winning lottery ticket for Christmas Eve.

Mery Christmas to you all.
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#9 Posted : 21 December 2005 12:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Hunter
We like to hang ours using a robust approach from the office ceiling, using extra-sticky tape, nails, screws, etc. With this method, we can cause maximum damage to the Asbestos Insuation Board Ceiling and enjoy the extra "snow" effect as the debris gently falls into our breathing zones.
Seriously folks - some times we have to be the voice of moderation, which roughly equates to "killjoy" in the everyday parlance of our work colleagues.
Standing on chairs, bringing in dodgy electric lights from home, damaging asbestos containing materials, etc. etc. - Humbug I say!
Lets keep Work at the Workplace and Christmas at home!!!
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#10 Posted : 21 December 2005 13:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
Perhaps we ought to follow the charity and bring a cow to work to send on to the third world!

Decorations actually leave me a bit cold as they just seem to reflect the frivolous self interest of society.

Grumpy Old Man of Buxton
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#11 Posted : 21 December 2005 14:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mark Talbot
Surplus rules, regulations and procedures, torn into bell-shapes, tree-shapes, etc., make handy festive trimmings.

Generic risk assessments neatly folded and interwoven with meaningless method statements make great streamers ...

Upturned hard hats make handy containers for sweets and fruit ...

And management pledges to safety improvements make great lines for your crackers!
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#12 Posted : 21 December 2005 14:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By Lilian McCartney
I once adpated the 'poem' from the advert about falling objects - many moons ago about Sir Isaac Newton tells us why - and sent it out to all the locations as a little reminder about hanging deccies and Chrissie lights being left on (previous year an accident taking deccies down had left a senior manager off for 8 months)

The response was mainly good, though there's always one who replied saying not to bother her when she's busy.

I also got some funny poetry replies showing how talented people are even though the tree needles had 'prickled' them.
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#13 Posted : 21 December 2005 16:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Sandler CMIOSH
In line with this thread, I would like to expand it, just a bit.
I must appoligise first for being a red tape type of person, but whilst I was walking around the borough where I work, I came across a person selling xmass trees, nothing wrong with that, but what I did object to was the fact, this person was selling the trees inside a building site, that was in the process of being dismantled by 360's and peckers.
Now I know that this is the spirit of christmas and all that but call me old fashion, you have to draw a line somewhere, kids and small persons running around, but not withstanding that, there was NO F10 on site, NO welfare, NO Site office, No PC, so in the spirit and things I had to let the HSE know.
What a kill joy I am. Hey its christmas in 4 days, lets look forward to that at least.
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#14 Posted : 21 December 2005 18:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By Graham Bullough
Here's a frivolous addition adapted from something I once got from a Christmas cracker: Q: What disease do you risk getting from having too many Christmas decorations? A: Tinselitis!

On a more serious note, spare a thought for folk who work in supermarkets and stores where they have had to endure canned Christmas "music" for weeks and weeks now. Also, most of them are probably working up to and including Saturday 24th Dec, get Christmas Day off and then have to be back on Boxing Day or the day after ready for the "sales" which prompts a further mass invasion by shoppers. This links with a mystery: Why do so many people crowd into supermarkets and go daft by buying masses of food, etc. before Christmas? You'd think that everyone was stocking up for a month's siege when in fact the supermarkets are only closed for a day or possibly two!
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#15 Posted : 21 December 2005 18:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By kanta
you may laugh,but I did get asked by my training manager of the christmas lights needed PAT Testing!!!.

I replied that it was not nec. as they were bought this year and had a valid certificate.
What a plonker!!!( Him ,not me )
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#16 Posted : 21 December 2005 18:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Sandler CMIOSH
And where are the stores safety advisors?
Risk Assessed, SSW, training is a wonderful thing!!!!!!
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#17 Posted : 21 December 2005 22:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By Scottie CMIOSH
kanta, I'll bet your christmas lights do not have an earth connection so PAT testing will be a complete waste of time! Regarding such people, I have a colleage named Pat who gave his approval for our chritsmas lights thus keeping all the smartiepants happy.........
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