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#1 Posted : 04 January 2006 11:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert (Rod) Douglas
I was out with the wife shopping and I saw a young lady have having her nails done in a shop window, the member of staff who was conducting the manicure, had her goggles on as well as a face mask, but the young lady receiving the manicure was not protected???

I had a similar problem a few years ago when I broke my leg playing football, when I was having my cast removed the nurse got fully suited and booted gloves mask goggles etc and began to cut the dust was going every where, I asked her to stop and provide me with a face mask and goggle she said why?

Where does it all end?


Any thoughts



Aye,


Rod (Devils Advocate)
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#2 Posted : 04 January 2006 12:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stupendous Man
Rod,

I'm at a loss as to what you are trying to say - perhaps you could explain a little further as to why you think there is a problem here.
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#3 Posted : 04 January 2006 12:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Sean Fraser
I just love the [... "why?"] in that story - doesn't it just say it all?

There are those who are required to put on the PPE but have no inkling as to why, or what it is supposed to be protecting them from. Just going through the motions 'cos someone told them to.

Then there are those who think, just because they have their hard hat on they are invincible and bullets will just bounce off them . . .

The land of the sensible sits somewhere in between. As always, proper communication, instruction and training goes a long way to helping understanding and the appropriate use of PPE, as with everything else in the workplace - and once they understand, they will either put it on becuase they agree it will protect them or they will quite rightly challenge it and say "but will it 'really' protect me?"

Noting of course that part of that education has to be that PPE is the very last line of defence, the bottom of the risk assessment hierarchy and it defaults to danger.
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#4 Posted : 04 January 2006 12:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By Sheila EJ Keogh
Bear in mind that the lady doing the manicure, and the nurse cutting away at the plaster cast, are quite likely to be doing these things several times a day (manicure) and week (nurse). Therefore their exposure to these dusts is understandably likely to be much higher over both short and long term than the client's/patient's exposure would be. Therefore their risk is higher, and so their need for protection is greater.
Hope this helps.
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#5 Posted : 04 January 2006 12:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert (Rod) Douglas
Sheila,

So as I am only getting my plaster off once I will not get any debris in my eye!!


Thanks for that.....


Aye

Rod D
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#6 Posted : 04 January 2006 12:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Sheila EJ Keogh
Rod,

well, the chances are a little bit lower... and you could insist that they wet the plaster first?? anyway, hopefully you won't break any more bones and so you won't need to carry your safety goggles & mask with you to hospital...

Happy New Year,

Sheila
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#7 Posted : 04 January 2006 12:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By Diane Thomason
Good grief, what do manicures involve these days?
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#8 Posted : 04 January 2006 12:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert (Rod) Douglas
Diane,

I don't know but the Method Statement was brilliant.....


aye


Rod
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#9 Posted : 04 January 2006 20:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Sandler CMIOSH
I have followed this thread since it opened, so I must comment on it.
Was there not a extract unit at the work station? if so where was the outlet pipe located? the fact that the staff had worn PPE is one thing, the LA must be doing its job.
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#10 Posted : 05 January 2006 12:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By Nick Oxley
My dentist always wears a mask (and gloves etc) strange how he never offers me one:-)
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#11 Posted : 05 January 2006 13:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Hunter
If your dentist always wears a mask, how do you know it's him?
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#12 Posted : 05 January 2006 13:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bill Elliott
C'mon - if you wore a mask how would the dentist get to your teeth
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#13 Posted : 05 January 2006 13:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman
Surgeons wear masks and gloves to protect YOU from THEM

Dentists wear masks and gloves to protect THEM from YOU. Would you put YOUR hand in THERE ?

I'd rather be a proctologist.
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