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Posted By Paul Hay
I know you get lots of these sorts of stories at this time. Just thought I would share the story of what happened to my neighbour on Christmas Day.
My neighbour bought his wife a professional, electric corkscrew for Christmas. While using it for the first time to uncork the first bottle of red of the day, notices a piece of plastic on the screw itself. Puts finger inside to remove the plastic, starts corkscrew which enters finger between nail and finger, keeps going until it hits bone. Neighbour almost passes out, rushed to hospital and put out while corkscrew is removed. Gets home early evening and is unable to enjoy the festivities for several days after.
I have decided not to inquire about his risk assessment, SSOW etc.
Paul
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Posted By Jonathan Sandler CMIOSH
As you seem to have discribed this incident very clearly, can we summise that you where present at the incident? The person who received the injury to the finger, can we presume that this person had NOT read the manufactures instructions? Does this item come under LOLER or PUWER Regs? Lifting a cork out of a bottle? force x pressure = ? As the item was bought for the 3rd party, had training been given to that person. You have advised the there was NO SSOW, what has been done to ensure this incident never happens again?
We wait, cheers!!!!!!
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Posted By Paul Hay
I wasn't there when it happened, but neighbours wife came knocking on our front door to see if we could help. My wife took one look and suggested he needed more than a plaster and a stiff drink. Apparently, the doctors and nurses had never seen anything like it and took some photos on camera phones - I am thinking of including them in my next training session!
Paul
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Posted By Jonathan Sandler CMIOSH
You see its not the drink that harms you, its the lack of practice that does, but I guess its beats the phone slapping videos.
Regards
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Posted By Descarte
Your forgetting the hierarchy of control, eliminate risk where possible i.e. in future buy wine bottles with screw on lids instead of corks, or even better still go for the 2/3 litre wine box ;-)
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Posted By Descarte
In fact not wanting to steal the thread but on a similar note (dont read if squimish) I was reading some safety bulletin's yesterday and came across these: Talk about ouch!
Arboreal worker drawn into wood chipper in Colorado 30.12.05
Tigers grab handler's arm at circus in Germany 30.12.05
OK, I decided to leave out the gruesome details in the reports (which I read on a safety site I haisen to add), probably too early in the morning for some people.
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
I think that a go under trade description could ease some pain - Can anyone think of a Professional wine-waiter who would dream of using an electric corkscrew?!!!!!
It is absolutely wonderful how manufacturers can create some scary pieces of kit by some neat labelling
Electric Corkscrew = Powered Auger
Modellers Bench saw = Circular Saw (without guards)
Electric Carving Knife = Powered Surgical Amputation tool
Bob
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Posted By James M
Lucky it was red wine!!
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Posted By Helen Horton
I bought an electric corkscrew for my friend aka "Gadget Girl" as she has to have all the latest kit! In this case the said equipment has been relegated to the garage as not having enough power to do the job but I do remember that the instructions said not to put your fingers into the mechanism!
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Posted By Ron Young
Is that also the reason why men always end up in the garage as well...
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Posted By Paul Hay
Helen
I'm sure the instructions clearly stated where not to put your finger. We are, however, talking about a man here...
Paul
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Posted By Alison Melrose
There will always be people out there that don't realise the instructions are there for a reason (though granted, sometimes they appear as if they have been written in Cantonese!) or do the opposite "because the can" - hence there is the "Darwin Awards" for utter stupidity ;)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
Alison et al
By the logic being applied it is OK to leave dangerous parts unguarded because anybody can see it is dangerous or there is a notice somewhere.
From my earlier post you will discern that I am rather concerned that manufacturers seem to use terms such domestic and modellers as an excuse not to exercise proper diligence in article design.
Bob - Still a grumpy old man of buxton - we had snow last night!
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Posted By Jonathan Sandler CMIOSH
Kelvinist, for every thing there is a reason and there is a reason for everything, some refer to is as the law of sod or murphy's law, but we wise and learned safety advisors refer to is as told you so stupid!!!!
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Posted By AlB
May I suggest that as part of the accident investigation I would aske the following question:
Was it really a lack of practice from not using the corkscrew regularly enough that lead to the incident, or was it overuse previously in the evening????
This man shold have been tesed for alcohol!!!!
Happy New Year to all!
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Posted By Helen Horton
Have I got it right that there is an element here of people wanting to ensure absolute safety of items sold to the public? If so what would you do about lawnmowers, sharp knives, scissors, mincers and other such lethal household devices. Lets be sensible and agree that all these things can be used safely if you use them properly, in the manner for which they were intended. Would the person who stuck his finger up his corkscrew have shoved his hand into the blades of his lawnmower without switching it off first?
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Posted By Frank Hallett
Hi Helen and all
Whilst I gree with your basic premise re absolute safety and I don't have first hand experience of the gadget described - shouldn't we consider the design factors as well?
It's fairly easy to identify the need to unplug devices [though enough people every year don't!]; but what about the design of the battery powered, hand-held corkscrew or even pepper/salt mill [we have got one of those]?
If the design of the device is so ergonomically friendly that simply holding it is likely to cause it to actuate, is this the best design? Perhaps a simple on/off switch would be useful but was omitted 'cos of the additional cost? The alternative would be to remove the batteries; but this probably wouldn't spring to mind for many people until after the first inadvertant actuation of the tool.
Frank Hallett
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Posted By peter gotch
Bought my son a bike from Halfords for Christmas.
In flat packaging, but virtually complete in terms of building bike up.
Heard swearing - thought technical error. Then saw him in bathroom.
Stabbed himself in bottom of palm whilst cutting through plastic tie with [retractable] stanley knife.
So it was off to A&E on Christmas morning. At least son not threatening to sue Halfords.
Regards, Peter
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Posted By Jonathan Sandler CMIOSH
Peter,
So your son will not follow in his fathers footsteps then?
Life was so much eaiser before we had to start think about what we where doing.
But hey we are now Chartered, maybe soon we will be avble to seen into the future? sooth saying NEBOSH level 1.
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