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Posted By Alex Ryding
Hi all,
We have the HSE, the US has OSHA - what does: France, Belgium, Australia, Italy and Spain use?
I ask, as my company has decided to create an accident related key performance indicator for all our sites (UK, US, Fr, It, Es, Au, Be).
Talking to my US colleague, I can alter the stats to the OSHA 200,000 figure with ease; the issue arises over what accidents to record?
I'd like to see what the requirements are for other countries so I can create an easy global recording system.
Can anyone help - anyone had to do similar?
Thanks
Alex
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Posted By Mike Draper Try http://osha.eu.int/riskob/osm/country.stmThis provides links to all of the different european reporting systems. You might also try http://osha.eu.int/statisticsThis summarises statistical data collected from across europe. Then there is http://laborsta.ilo.org/Collated data from around the world. Although it is a bit patchy in places where some governments prefer not to disclose data, it does provide all sorts of ways splitting the data by age, gender, industry, etc
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Posted By Merv Newman
As you know, most european countries use 1 000 000 hours as their reporting base. Easily convertible to OSHA 200 000 hours ( a rough percentage : 50 weeks of 40 hours for 100 people = 200 000 hours)
So OSHA 1.00 equals 1% of employees injured LTI which equals a european rate of 5.
However, what constitutes an LTI will vary according to local legislation. Here in France "any "bad thing" happening to an employee in the work place and within working hours constitutes an LTI" but local interpretations vary. Had an employee who's knee locked during the lunch break. Had to be declared as an LTI (any "bad thing") but was later thrown out as "not work related"
Statistics I have seen show that southern europe has lower LTI rate than northen. This may be related to scandinavian social security system or to spanish/italian being more "macho".
suit yourself, but I would not trust any pan-european statistics as comparing granny smiths with granny smiths. Or even coxe's orange pippins.
I prefer to stick with national statistics, industry to industry.
And how on earth can I compare UK stats with Dutch or German ?
Whatever. My personal analysis is that about 5% of employees are injured every year.
What are you doing about that ?
Discuss
Merv
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Posted By Alex Ryding
Hi All,
Thank you for your input.
Merv,
I agree, how do you compare? I understand that each country has very different principals of reporting, and currently we'd be comparing apples to sausages if we just adopted each countries reporting system. What I was looking for was a way of producing a statistical measure that we could use in-house.
As a basis we’ll adopt this formula for each of our sites to use (at least we’ll all start with the same formula)
"defined accident" * 200,000 / hours worked
The issue as we all know is what on earth you put in the defined accident section! The reason I wanted to look at other countries reporting / recording mechanisms, was to see if there was a common denominator that could be used for a global statistics system. I already have to produce 2 sets of statistics per month, so if I have to produce a third, I’d like it be to as simple as possible, both for me and our other sites.
My current best option for “defined accident” will be “any accident resulting in time off work (except for the day of the accident) or visit to a medical practitioner”. The reason I choose this for global statistics is: There is little room for interpretation: you either are off work because of an accident or you’re not, you either did visit a hospital / doctors or you didn’t.
I know this is simplifying things, but it has to be an uncomplicated working system for all our sites across the globe - after all, KISS ;)
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