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#1 Posted : 06 January 2006 09:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Debbie S
Advise please

Who is responsible for ensuring that hard wiring is checked and certificated every 5 years - the lanlord or the tenant or is it one of those that sits on the fence and could be the responsibility of either.

Thanks
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#2 Posted : 06 January 2006 10:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Sandler CMIOSH
The Landlord
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#3 Posted : 06 January 2006 10:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By TBC
It will depend on your tenant agreement. If it is your responsibility the landlord will still require a copy of the cert.

Check with your property dept if you have one.
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#4 Posted : 06 January 2006 11:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Frank Hallett
Where do you get this "every 5 years" from Debbie?

You need a RA to identify the inspection & test frequencies of all the varous components of the wiring!

Some parts of the system - those used most frequently by cleaners etc or even accessible to others 'cos they're in uncontrolled public areas - should be given greater attention than other parts that are less vulnerable to abuse, mis-use & vanadalism.

And "NO". I'm not getting confused with the need for PAT testing!

Frank Hallett
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#5 Posted : 06 January 2006 12:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By TBC
Agree with you on other checks Frank, but the mains (hard wiring) is every five years.
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#6 Posted : 06 January 2006 12:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Sandler CMIOSH
Agreed with Frank, domestic one rule commercial another, which one are you talking about?
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#7 Posted : 06 January 2006 12:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By Frank Hallett
TBC - please read the legislative requirement very carefully. The 5 years is not the rule in itself, simply the max time between for "domestics".

Frank Hallett
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#8 Posted : 06 January 2006 12:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By terry mallard
I agree with Frank.

The 5 year rule is NOT a legal requirement only best practice and down to your risk assessment for the frequency, including the obs taken from the electrician carrying out the inspection regarding future freqenices, given the condition of the installation and test results etc etc.

The 5 year rule would not be enforced by the LA or HSE unless pescribed process required it (which may be under seperate regs for HSE), only to ensure the maintenance etc of the installation in a safe condition............ (re 4 me thinks of the EA regs 89)as well as the HASAWEA 74 and the MHSWR 99.
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#9 Posted : 06 January 2006 12:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By terry mallard
I would not take issue with the Landlord over hard wiring ( unless it was under their control-say common area), only the tennant carrying out the work activity unless there was strong evidence to suggest otherwise.
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#10 Posted : 06 January 2006 12:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Frank Hallett
Sorry folks - amendment to my last! I missed out the word "recommended" between "max" and "time".

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