Posted By Jonathan Sandler CMIOSH
Mr Darcy
H&S expireance should cover many fields, background ect..
In 92 I was at Wano, H&S was not considered that high, fire drills, Landing PO's did not think J&S then, but what has happend to change their way of thinking? need I say more, we should all be able to learn from each other regardsless of rank seniorority etc.. 13 years is 13 years, life is only 18 years.
That is what I was discussing re degree or nvq, both lead to qualified person.

Posted By Ruth Doyle
Dear members,

I would like to repeat a section of IOSH President Neil Budworth’s posting above:

'Finally, we have long been lobbying HSE to clarify what is meant by “competent advice” in relation to employers’ legal obligations. For the first time, a definitive statement looks possible, and IOSH will be instrumental in drafting and shaping that – and ensuring that it reflects the value all our members bring to their workplaces.'

The key words here are “all our members”. There is absolutely no possibility that IOSH would lobby for a definition of “competent advice” that excludes nearly half of our membership!

Any proposed statement of competence would need to reflect that, as so many of you have pointed out on this thread, it’s horses for courses – the more high-hazard environments would naturally require a different approach and resourcing to those that are lower-risk. Jay Joshi’s posting is a good summary of current issues.

I would also like to point out that IOSH’s press release on the parliamentary question includes the following:

'The Government says it is “fully supportive” of the introduction of a chartered qualification for professional health and safety advisors and pledges to recommend all advisors, where appropriate, to work towards achieving it.'

Again, the key words are “where appropriate”. Norwich Union, in using this as the basis of their story, has left out those critical words. Unfortunately, we have no editorial control over how NU or any other organisation chooses to use our news releases.

Finally, can I suggest that any of you who may have views that you would like to direct to Council of Management, Board of Trustees or President, is very welcome to do so by via email to me. I will ensure that they are passed on, and that you will get a personal response.

Ruth Doyle
IOSH Director of Communications

Posted By Martin R. Bessant
This Thread, "Qualified", has had 2316 hits and 42 postings.

The Thread started out with a reference to a DWP article and has turned back to the perceived negatives of Chartered Status. As Chartered Status was prepared by IOSH Council after lengthy consultation, discussion and communication with IOSH members of all grades it is inappropriate to continually revisit the perceived negative issues in a public Forum. This view is taken following research of the membership status of those presenting this perception, and that has shown that the majority are non-members.

"Chartered Status" is now a members' issue.

As Ruth Doyle ( ruth.doyle@iosh.co.uk ) has invited those that still have concerns - that includes members and non-members - to express those views direct to Council of Management, Board of Trustees or President, the Moderators have locked this Thread.

In future should any person posting to the Forums chose to open up the issue of Chartered Status again they will be invited by the Moderators, to continue the discussion in the Members' Area. The Moderators will be acting under the requirements of Acceptable Use Guideline 4 which states "An appropriate message posted on an inappropriate forum may be forwarded to the relevant forum and the subscriber notified."

Martin Bessant - Lead Moderator,IOSH Web Pages.