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#1 Posted : 20 January 2006 14:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By anday
hi all, i am really finding it hard to get to grips with the principal of risk control systems? maybe i just need a good example of input-conversion-output process and what is required. im really lost and confused and im about to read HSG (65) for the thousandth time.
any help please...

thanks
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#2 Posted : 20 January 2006 15:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alan Hoskins
anday,

Once you have identified who or what might be harmed and the liklihood or frequency you have three basic options:

Eliminate - don't do it or substitute a safer alternative (say) for a dangerous or harmful substance. An example would be using battery operated power tools out doors instead of mains powered.
Control - separate or segregate by physical barriers (guards) or extract fumes with LEV.
Mitigate - reduce the consequences if it should happen. Air bags (for example) to prevent serious injury should someone fall from a building during a construction project.

There are also management controls - SSWs - etc. but these are secondary to the above, which should always be considered in the order given and is known as the heirarchy of control.

Alan
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#3 Posted : 20 January 2006 15:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By Frank Hallett
Hi

Have you got to grips with the requirements of Schedule 1 to Reg 4 of MHSW yet [use L21 , not the basic Regs]? It could be that you haven't quite understood what's required here as it can [with some interpretation] be used a checklist for the stages in risk control system implementation.

Frank Hallett
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#4 Posted : 20 January 2006 15:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By anday
thanks alan,

I maybe asking the wrong question. Im currently working through the nvq level4 and im at the point where i am being asked to provide evidence for evaluating the health and safey statutory and practical reqiurements with respect to the input to my organisation. and the next part is the respect to the conversion process and after that the output process, this lead me to RCS. now im aware that this is to control risks from entering the organisation and the process stage is to contain the risks and the output stage is to prevent the export of risks off-site but (i think this might be the right question) how do i go about documenting this? tell me if im right or wrong but i should say that by purchasing electrical components which are RoHS and WEEE compliant, by doing this i have controlled risks from entering my organisation and i have contained the risks to employees by reducing the hazard of coming into contact with the said components and then by preventing risks (off-site) to the environment by controlling the amount of chemicals in components(that we purchase) as waste?

PHEW....

glad i got that out

but how can i document it????

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#5 Posted : 20 January 2006 15:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alan Hoskins
Well why didn't you ask that in the first place? :-)

Dunno.

Al
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#6 Posted : 20 January 2006 15:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alan Hoskins
I didn't read it properly did I?

A
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#7 Posted : 20 January 2006 17:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By anday
sorry alan in a bit of frenzy when i posted it earlier..
thanks again
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#8 Posted : 23 January 2006 10:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alan Hoskins
Hi Anday,

Do you have access to Dr Tony Boyles book on Risk Management.

He describes a few systems in that, but to be honest I'm not sure if those illustrations will help you.

In one example (of a health and safety committee), he splits outputs into physical and abstract. Physical includes records (memos, minutes...) and abstract being solutions, recommendations, instructions, plans...etc.

Not sure if that makes sense or helps at all.

I thought you'd almost anwered your own question above.

I've not had to do this (yet) but it may come, so I was hoping some of the more expreienced contributors would have come forward on this(nowithstanding Frank's reply above).

Alan
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