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#1 Posted : 26 January 2006 16:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Fornhelper
Home carer arrives home with groceries for client. Bends over to put groceries on to floor and as she stands up she turns round at the same time to speak to client. She then bangs her head against the door that she left open. As a result she is off for more than 3 days....

Would you classify this as a 'moving and handling' injury or 'striking a fixed / stationery object' injury?

Option two for me but have had a couple of different opinions claiming injury occurred as a result of the moving and handling 'operation' so should be reported accordingly....be interested in your thoughts.

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p.s Appreciate she was using the wrong technigue for lifting / lowering groceries but have addressed that!!
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#2 Posted : 26 January 2006 17:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By Descarte
If I was carrying my groceries and fell off a cliff, I dont think it would be a manual handling accident but a fall from height.

If I was carrying my groceries and walked into a wall, I dont think it would be a manual handling accident but hitting fixed/stationary object.

Tis a bit cloudy as the standing up was part of the handling task, but the handling only indirectly linked to the accident.

If she had stood up and hurt her pack, then MH injury.

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#3 Posted : 26 January 2006 20:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Sandler CMIOSH
Is the home refered to the persons own home or care home?
Did the accident happen during working hours or in the persons own time?
Observation, if the accident happend as a result of that person own fault why should you worry?
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#4 Posted : 26 January 2006 20:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Sandler CMIOSH
Sorry have just reread the thread, striking head on cupboard door, distracted by client, whilst carrying out their duties at work.
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#5 Posted : 26 January 2006 21:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman
Striking stationary object does it for me. Like banging your head on the underside of a bench.

Don't you have a category for "being stupid" ? Most of us do but it is somehow rare to find it explicitly listed on accident forms. Often disguised as "lack of awareness"

But I do apologise to the lady for being cynical. She was distracted by the client and may have a lower than normal level of kinaesthesia. As do I. ouch

merv
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#6 Posted : 27 January 2006 09:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By Fornhelper
For anybody interested I took the trouble to look it up !!!

kinaesthesia:

the ability to sense the position and location and orientation and movement of the body and its parts

Think I'll use that later tonight when my wife asks me why I am stumbling up the stairs:

Response: I've lost my kinaesthesia !!! ...(though may be the slurred version :)
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#7 Posted : 29 January 2006 08:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By Saracen11
"Striking a fixed or moving object".
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#8 Posted : 29 January 2006 13:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Richard Altoft
First Seperate out cause of injury from cause of accident
Injury caused by striking fixed object, accident by lifting/moving so then go back to what exactly does the form ask????????????
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#9 Posted : 29 January 2006 18:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By steven bentham
Why dont you make them wear hard hats!
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