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#1 Posted : 30 January 2006 10:35:00(UTC)
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Posted By Benjamin Nicholson
Would anyone be so kind as to provide me with a good procedure relating to Demolition???
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#2 Posted : 30 January 2006 10:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Wilson
Ben,

Can you be a bit more specific?
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#3 Posted : 30 January 2006 11:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By Frank Hallett
Hi Benjamin

You could start off by having a browse through the HSE web-site.

Also, as Dave suggests - could you be more specific about what is to be demolished andd the proposed means of demolition.

Frank Hallett
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#4 Posted : 30 January 2006 11:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By Benjamin Nicholson
Gents,

Sorry for not being specific in the initial request. Currently updating existing management system and would appreciate the general procedures to be considered when engaged in and or prior to demolition activities taking place.

Regards
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#5 Posted : 30 January 2006 11:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By Frank Hallett
Benjamin - after the browse through the HSE site; get a copy of the existing and also the incoming CDM Regs & ACoP.

Frank Hallett
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#6 Posted : 30 January 2006 11:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By Anthony Slinger
Get yourself a copy of BS 6187:2000 (ISBN 0 580 33206 3), which is the British Standard code of practice for demolition. A very good document indeed.
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#7 Posted : 30 January 2006 13:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By S.Thomas
Benjamin

Also try the National Federation of Demolition Contractors their website is www.demolition-nfdc.com.

regards

Sonia
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#8 Posted : 01 February 2006 08:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By shaun cooper
Everyone seems to be driving you towards publications, I write 50 method statements a week in relation to all types of demolition procedures, give me what you are looking for and I will send you as many as you need?
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#9 Posted : 01 February 2006 09:20:00(UTC)
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Posted By Frank Hallett
Benjamin

Shaun has made a good point - we are driving you towards publications 'cos we want you to do some of the work yourself - that's the only real way to learn what it's actually about.

Also, there is a possibility that "worked documents" provided from outside may simply not fit sufficiently with what you do but you won't know it until something goes wrong.

Take Shauns offer but have them thoroughly vetted to ensure that the very generously provided material is suitable and sufficient for your particular organisations needs.

Frank Hallett
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#10 Posted : 01 February 2006 09:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By Benjamin Nicholson
Frank,

I will take Shaun up on his kind offer and am fully aware of the requirements to tailor the information to relate to the specific needs of the organisation. Just trying to save time and effort and not ‘re-invent the wheel’ by asking fellow professional for their assistance.

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Benjamin Nicholson CMIOSH
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#11 Posted : 01 February 2006 18:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By shaun cooper
All,

I am fully aware that all method statements should be authored by those who are conducting the work, or planning it to measure the extent of information that they may require from prospective contractors. However, my learned friends, demolition contractors are not the most academic people in the world and need a little help sometimes when producing safety documentation. It is very easy to speak the words, but when it comes down to interpreting that into a 'idiot proof' method statement most struggle, or employ a person like myself who historically has hands on experience of their industry.

Demolition is not a 'science' or has 'scientific fact' to back it up, only those with a wealth of experience and knowledge of many types of structures can advise others, even structural engineers can only give you 'most probable factors' based on calculations and design' I have demolished most structures and can base advice on 'actuals' and not supposition or most probable factors.

I'm sorry that this may sound irritable, but I would ask all those involved 'how many of you actually have hands on experience of demolishing a building'?
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#12 Posted : 01 February 2006 23:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By Anthony Slinger
Shaun.

I have been involved in a bit of hands on (and hands off) demolition (garden sheds, sand castles, etc).
What Benjamin originally asked for was “the general procedures to be considered when engaged in and or prior to demolition activities taking place.”
As he is “updating existing management system” I kindly suggested he looked at BS 6187:2000, which I am sure you are familiar with, outlines amongst other things Planning and Managing of demolition projects. I would not have thought a very project specific method statement would help him achieve his initial request.

50 demolition method statements a week? I am surprised there is anything left standing in your part of the world!
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