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Posted By MancMan
Can anyone advise me on what to do with a diesel spill on our carpark (reasonably small ammount from a turning vehicle). People are complaining that it is slippery when driving over it and away from it with the diesel on the tyre.
Is the best thing to cover thge spill with sand ??
This has not entered any drainage systems. A quick responce would be much appreciated.
Thanks
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Posted By The toecap
Sand and some cones is the quickest response.
Check that the tarmac hasn't debonded after time as deisel tends to ruin carpark typ tarmac
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Posted By Richard Webber
A small spill kit would probably do the trick!
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Posted By Frank Hallett
This has the undertones of another "wind-up"!
If it's not; I'm having very serious thoughts about the way in which this Forum is viewed by those who access it.
Frank Hallett
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Posted By MancMan
Frank
What is the problem with the question ? and why do you "have very serious thoughts about the way in which this Forum is viewed by those who access it." - this is a serious question and a request for some advice forom fellow professionals - do you have a problem with the forum being used for that !
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Posted By Faye Brown
Forgive me Frank but i thought these chat forums were about exchanging information and asking advice? If you have to be an experienced H&S professional to be 'allowed' to ask a question, then what is the point of all this? I understand no-one likes to be wound up in any way but i also understand the need for reliable advice as a relatively new H&S advisor.
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Posted By Martin Keeler
I agree, using the forum helps all professional persons Chartered or not. It seems to me that being chartered has gone to so many of their heads.What do others think?
Ps I'm a Doctor !! so what!
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Posted By Frank Hallett
I recognise that my earlier comment may seem undiplomatic and even annoy some - my apologies to the anonymous MancMan for the observation but not the thought behind it.
I shall restrain myself from further comment on this issue as it's obviously far too emotive for others.
Frank Hallett
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Posted By Patrick Burns CMIOSH, - SpDipEM - MIQA
No matter what you use to clean up the spill remeber that it will have to be treated as hazardous waste and should not be put in ordinary bins.
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Posted By B.Gee
It is not hazardous waste
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
B Gee
What basis have you for the statement?
The definition of hazardous waste is wide drawn - if I remember rightly diesel and/or its residues do have properties within the H1 - H14 definitions referred to in the Hazardous Waste Regulations. Mix this with some bitumen and I think the term is well needed.
Bob
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Posted By The toecap
I love it when people take it too serious. YEEEEEEhaaaaawwwwww
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Posted By Gary L
According to the European Waste Catalogue, Diesel is classed as hazardous waste - code 13 07 01*
Gary
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Posted By Fred Pratley
Mancman,
Cement dust is best, and only a sprinkle like the fire brigade does.
Frank,
Somewhat have to agree with your thinking!
Fred
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Posted By Daniel Stonehouse
It most certainly IS hazardous waste. Would people please check carefully before posting answers that are of the yes/no type, as the person clearing up the spill could end up breaking the law.
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Posted By TBC
Simple question looking for straight forward help. Nothing wrong with that.
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Posted By Anthony Slinger
Mancman is not anonymous. Just hover over the user name and all is revealed! As for the use of this forum, I’ve seen worse. Ask away Peter.....
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Posted By dbh
Seems like a perfectly reasonable request.
Sprinkled Sand is probably the most commonly used technique (in my limited experience).
A company like the one mentioned (or Fosse Liquitrol) will probably sell you a "proper" diesel-eating degreaser.
I would never mention sprinking cement dust around in public! (well not without the necessary PPE and a 5 mile exclusion area, be careful the safety police are around!)
But I would be a little worried about the speeds that people are going in your car park for it to affect the handling of their cars!
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Posted By Frank Hallett
Cat litter is best if you don't have the more expensive proprietary stuff to hand; and for disposal reference should be made to the "List of Wastes" that forms the definition part of the "Hazardous Waste [England & Wales] Regs 2005 - or your local version if your in a different part of the UK; or the Directive if in other parts.
Frank Hallett
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Posted By Martin Keeler
I knew you couldn't resist, good on you Frank.
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Posted By Adrian Watson
Frank,
List of waste and European Waste Catalogue; Diesel is an absolute waste!
Regards Adrian
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Posted By Frank Hallett
Hi Adrian
You immediately previous response was just a little too meta-psychological for me; especially on a Friday morning.
Could you re-phrase so that an numb-nut like me can understand your point please!
Frank Hallett
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Posted By B.Gee
Frank,
Would the cat litter be second hand?
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Posted By Frank Hallett
B Gee, on occassion I suspect that it still had the cat on it but it was removed before contact with diesel.
Don't knock it, it works better than all the other suggestions.
Frank Hallett
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Posted By Richard Mathews
I would really advise you all to have a talk with the chap that I gave the contact email for in my first response to this question. Cement dust? Cat litter? Sand? Hazardous waste? I think you will be impressed if you get him round to give a demonstration and I'm not on commission, it's just a good product. When we have diesel spills, (upto 200ltrs) this stuff shifts it.
Richard
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Posted By Bill Parkinson
Interesting discussion regarding disposal. My dealings with the EA on waste oil/diesel is that it has been regarded as hazardous waste (and before that Special Waste) due to the fact that it has the risk phrases associated with carcinogenic materials.
Cement dust is itself hazardous waste due to its chemical properties as will cause severe burns in prolonged contact with the skin (remember the poor guy who lost part of both his legs due to kneeling in it when laying a concrete floor).
Cat litter is a good medium as it will absorb the material (used to denature drugs returned to your chemist by the way) but this will be contaminated and therefore will need to be treated as such.
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